You mean like straight up telling people if they don’t like getting griefed on a 90/10 server they should pay for a transfer…
They told me in phase 2 I can’t go out into the game world, and gave zero F’s about that… They told me I am not allowed to win in Alterac Valley…
But god forbid a hordie is inconvenienced with a faction login queue.
If more people want to play Horde than your precious Alliance then you’re just SOL. Blizzard isn’t going to force people to play one faction over the other.
Did they tell you that? Or was it the result of player made decisions?
Yes lets force people to either play a faction they don’t want to or just not play… that’ll fix it all… that’s idiotic… if people want to play horde then that’s THEIR choice. We all pay for this game. Let people play how and who they want.
If they must, I rather they ENCOURAGE faction balance instead of forcing it. Give Alliance some buffs if you must. Add 10% more exp. Make Seal of Blood and Seal of Command work the same outside of the name. Give Alliance 10% more gold. Don’t just put barriers up for one faction.
I dont think they will ever do that I think they will just release pve servers only so they dont have to worry about it.
Lol look at Stalagg, Skeram, Incindius, Heartseeker. They literally don’t care, and make more money from transfers when a realm is imbalanced. Looking forward to playing on our 12k 99% horde mega server in TBC 
How about this: The server is PvP at 50/50 or fairly close to it.
Once it starts drastically deviating, it switches to PvE server.
They really need to do it.
Alliance is so dead in TBC.
If they are doing new realm and we are starting over at 58, no one will play Alliance.
Even the top current guilds such as APES will probably re-roll to Horde.
Horde in TBC is soooooo OP.
And will continue to be OP for the next 10+ years.
Just look at the stage of Retail, only 3:7 A:H ratio.
No one plays Alliance any more.
And with 15 years of hindsight, TBC will be 1:9 Horde.
Quick question for all these people in favor of realm balance…
If realm balance is as important as you claim it is, then WHY for the entire history of WoW and again in classic do we see nothing but a trend toward massively imbalanced realms?
followup question, for people honest enough to answer the first one…
Could it be that there are more incentives for imbalance than balance and that the “detriment” of a lack of balance, if there even is any, does not outweigh the benefit of unbalanced realms?
Just some food for thought, hopefully we can stop having to read all these asinine threads about faction balance…
It matters because I don’t wanna see the flood of complaints about 8hour ques for every horde bg.
So, would there be some minimum threshhold before this kicks in?
Player 1 rolls Horde. Realm locks Horde (1:0 ratio)
Player 2-?? try to roll Horde and get mad and wait.
Player ??+1 rolls Alliance. Ah, balance. Realm unlocks Horde. (1:1 ratio)
Lucky Player 7 gets to roll Horde while everyone else has been mashing Create. Realm locks Horde. (2:1 ratio)
More players try to roll Horde and keep cycling because eventually they’ve got to get in, right? Forum post crying about not being able to play with friends abound.
Another brave player rolls Alliance. Not one of the dozens hammering Create over and over, no. Horde is unlocked. (2:2 ratio)
Bang bang. One more Horde. Realm locks Horde (3:2 ratio)
No, that’s ridiculous, right?
Okay, so how many Horde on a realm before it locks? 100? And if, when it locks at 100, there are only 2 Alliance and no one Alliance wants to join that mess, maybe those two foolhardy Alliance are already deleting and trying another realm? When is it too early, and when is it too late?
Seriously, it’s one of those ideas that maybe sounds good, but if the problem is too few people are going to roll Alliance in TBC, locking Horde at any imbalance is just going to frustrate every player who wants to play as Horde with their friends because THEY shouldn’t have to roll Alliance and play against their friends.
It’s always THEM, those other people, who need to be forced to play the other faction, to move to the other realm. All a locked realm does is send players to the forums demanding their right to play what faction they want on the realm they want.
Seriously, these ‘idea’s’ are just so stupid. Are you really sure you want to publicize your lack of sense?
Thankfully, this is not a thing to worry about. Balance is, and will always be, a player driven thing due to our own choices.
Except that would be dependent on total horde pop vs total alliance pop, not individual server balance. Which means none of these ideas are gonna be anywhere near a good solution to this problem because they are not addressing the actual problem at all and are actively hurting the game if they get implemented.
Here are 3 excuses:
[1] What if there aren’t enough players of one faction? What if the total ratio is 75/25? Do you expect game companies to turn down thousands of customers?
[2] Faction balancing is a player myth. It has never been proven that it improves a game. Blizzard doesn’t experiment with player myths. Not in a proven, successful game. Not just because YOU want it.
[3] Faction balancing is impossible. Companies cannot force a large percent of their customers to NOT play what they want to play. These other players are PEOPLE, not game NPCs. The company will not make rules that say YOU are more important than HE is.
Baloney – YOU don’t need them, but Blizzard does. In fact, the company needs them more than it needs you. The minute any player thinks they are more important than any other player, they have nothing to contribute to anyone: Blizzard, other players, anyone.
Faction login queue is completely different than getting ganked on a PvP Server. Don’t forget, PvE Servers do exist, and didn’t have the P2 nonsense that the PvP Servers endured. Don’t get mad at the opposite faction just because you picked a PvP Server where you’re unable to turn on nor off the PvP toggle. P2 didn’t bother anybody on a PvE Server. Just another day in paradise:
Except there weren’t 10k people plus on vanilla servers…………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
Even on the most imbalanced servers, you still had a reasonable expectation of finding areas to level without being repeatedly killed, camped by the opposing faction because Azeroth is a big place for a few thousand people.
Not so much for 10-20k.
The alliance were supposed to expect having more horde in Ironforge than Alliance?
PvE is fine and all, but lets face it… no one cares about PvE realms.
Only bad players, or people with extremely limited time want to play on PvE realms… and those people likely won’t stay long.
However, knowing what we know today about the lack of control Blizzard has over anything relating to “balance”, I would expect a fair number of people would roll PvE just to not have to deal with the hassle of 20 hour a day neckbeard players camping every flightpoint on overcrowded, and imbalanced servers.
And you know, it isn’t just the alliance complaining about balance… I’m sure the horde aren’t exactly “luvin” the 4 hour BG queues.
This thread should tell you exactly who cares about PvE Realms:
Of course you only care about PvP Servers. All of these “suggestions” are very short sighted.
Well pservers are free and wow classic isn’t . . .
it’s not just about PVP racial, Alliance races in general are boring, then the titles you get from it, like come on ‘Marshal’ really?
Alliance is getting Draenei, who are fat and goofy compared to Belf.
Humans, Dwarves, gnomes, NE all look boring. NE males are ugly than forsaken.
It’s not just about the lore, the fantasy of the races, the looks all matters. Who even wants to ride on horses and boring robots when you can have savage snow wolves and brutal Kodo mounts.
Horde is 1000% cooler than alliance. The city is also Orky and the undead city is unique. Only good thing Alliance have is Iron forge.