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[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

you just said to decline if they tried to add me lol. how about we dont have any of that and just stricter moderation and accout wide ignore?

[Zandrae-wyrmrest-accord (Zandrae)]

@Greatbrae-dalaran

We need the WoW forums to change to a b-net form.

I’d rather see account wide ignore come back. It was disabled to break cogshanks long ago.

This suggestion will have negative unintended consequences.

We also really needed yet another thread about this. It’s almost as bad as high elf spam and t troll spam.

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

Yes I can. I can add Moondoggíe-Faerlina, and you wouldn’t even know it.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

you just said to decline if they tried to add me lol

Right so where’s the confusion? People could add me, Tovi-MoonGuard to their friend’s list and track when I log this character on and off.

If someone tries to add this to their friend’s list: “Tovi #11582” I hit decline and they can’t see what I’m doing ever. They don’t see my guild. They can’t go on that one pvp website and figure my alts out. I’m completely hidden.

So I don’t get your resistance since you’re somebody that obviously wants to hide.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Tovi-moon-guard

So I don’t get your resistance since you’re somebody that obviously wants to hide.

you’re not even on a max level toon so are you hiding as well? ive admitted plenty of times that i’ll never reveal my more played toons and this is obviously the best way to preserve anonymity. you can do whatever as you like with this toon this is soley for forum use. i honestly dont care what you use im here for discussions. i dont look at peoples avatars or levels.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

you’re not even on a max level toon so are you hiding as well?

No. Every character I own is in my guild.

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

ive admitted plenty of times that i’ll never reveal my more played toons and this is obviously the best way to preserve anonymity

Well, nothing would change for you if they add btag posting so why do you care?

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

you’re not even on a max level toon

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

i dont look at peoples levels.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Tovi-moon-guard

Well, nothing would change for you if they add btag posting so why do you care?

i don’t want any requests. so do you agree with account wide ignores or do you only want btags and nothing else? i dont get why you people dont like any other suggestion…its weird

[Réynn-emerald-dream]

@Zandrae-wyrmrest-accord

I’d rather see account wide ignore come back. It was disabled to break cogshanks long ago.

We actually had an account wide ignore?
The hell is a Cogshanks.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

i don’t want any requests

Well people on the forums are tired of sock puppets and people that alt hop to gray out posts by flagging. Why are your wants more important than theirs? Your problem really isn’t a problem. Once you decline an invite from someone, you can block them forever so they wouldn’t send you an invite again. Plus, are you really claiming you’re that popular or infamous? I’ve been posting as Tovi since Wrath and I’ve been a jerk since Wrath. Never been bothered by anyone.

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

so do you agree with account wide ignores or do you only want btags and nothing else?

So you would be fine with exposing everyone’s alts? Because that’s what would happen as soon as they try to post on another character. That sounds very intrusive.

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

We’d still have to have the task of putting all their 110 alts on ignore until they got banned. And there were people posing as others for close to a month before it was handled. It’smost likely that the company itself is not gonna hire more people to handle the forums. And they already have the huge task of moderating all the bnet related forums.

It’s also less work for them if the forums just work like every other forum out there. You get one username. And bnet is our public username for their social related things. I don’t know how it got to be that people believed it isn’t.

[Soulebreaker-hyjal]

BFA proved this. They love to see us fight.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Tovi-moon-guard

Why are your wants more important than theirs? Your problem really isn’t a problem.

i never said it was. also the troll/sockpuppeting thing isnt as big as youre making it to be.
it’s that most people think whoever disagrees is a troll. also good for you never got harassed thats not lucky for others at times. sadly not everyone is you so dont have that peace.

@Tovi-moon-guard

So you would be fine with exposing everyone’s alts? Because that’s what would happen as soon as they try to post on another character. That sounds very intrusive.

so you’re saying it’s okay to alt post or no?

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

we haven’t had any serious trolls in months lol

you’ve got to be kidding… we’ve seen some epic troll melt-downs in the last couple of months.

[Mirasol-mannoroth (Mirasol)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

also good for you never got harassed thats not lucky for others at times. sadly not everyone is you so dont have that peace.

I have been harassed when posting on my Btag. On the forums. At which point I reported it as anyone should. I can also block that whole account if needed on the other Blizzard forums.

Nobody at all can bother me via Btag without my permission. Having a single posting identity on the forums enables easy reporting and blocking which reduces harassment. They can’t switch chars to do it.

The alt posting as different identities creates forum account logistics issues (trust levels, likes/flags, post history) and it creates moderation issues. None of which need to exist.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

it’s that most people think whoever disagrees is a troll

Nah that’s just you exaggerating. Sure it happens but that’s not what happens every time.

However, we know people alt hop to troll because I have proven that several times by pet and mount checking and we know people alt hop to flag people’s post because it’s something we can do ourselves.

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

so you’re saying it’s okay to alt post or no?

What does that have to do with my point? And it’s obvious I’m fine with “alt posting” since I’ve been doing so since Wrath. I just told you that.

But if you do account wide ignore, that will expose people’s alts. See someone brand new you have never spoken to on ignore? Well now you just found out who their alt is and on what server they have them on. Btag posting is complete anonymity. Again, why are you against this?

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Nobully-blackrock

you’ve got to be kidding… we’ve seen some epic troll melt-downs in the last couple of months.

you mean the btag ones right? because that was the ones that people had meltdowns because they disagreed with it, so much so i was impersonated and insulted multiple times bc i disagreed with it so i guess ur right…just this one hot topic. also it wasnt just one side, both had some passionate people but most pro were very hostile.

@Tovi-moon-guard

I’m fine with “alt posting” since I’ve been doing so since Wrath. I just told you that.

if you’re ok with alt posting then you are fine with the way things are.
i also told you my reasoning and you acknowledge it wasnt a problem and that is fine, i respect your thoughts on it but i won’t keep repeating it to you.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

if you’re ok with alt posting then you are fine with the way things are

Huh no. I don’t think people should have the power to bury a post with their herd of alts, I don’t think people should be able to bypass ignore by changing characters, I don’t think people should be able to bump and like their own posts with anonymous alts to create false feelings on a topic and I don’t think I should have to keep a character slot free on my account for anonymous posting.

All that will be solved by bnet posting, which is what Blizzard does on all their forums except this one.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

but they have already given a stance on this. instead people keep spam posting this instead of asking for other possible options.

at the end of the day, most of us want the same thing: to lessen the trolling, stop sock puppet and troll posts ect. it’s just some of us want it done in a different method and there’s nothing wrong with that at all.

[Hwanwok-ysera (Hwanwok)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

btags won’t stop “trolling”

We have been saying this for 5 months now, trolling is still going to exist no matter what.

What we have been saying is that it will reduce trolling in some way because the safety net that is swapping forum characters is effectively removed.

Inb4 I hear the “What about the throwaway blizzard accounts?” argument, do you realize that they last a short amount of time? like if I troll here with btags enabled here in the WoW forums, I’m going to be ignored within a couple of days to the point I need to create another throwaway account and need to spend another $15 to get access to post here. Its easier to ignore 5 accounts then 20 characters under the same WoW sub.

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

i don’t want to be added

Unfortunately some people get random friend requests all the time so heed your own advice

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

just ignore people and move on.

I get random friend request too, but you don’t see me complaining about it because I just learn to deal with it by just declining (or blocking the account if he/she keeps doing requesting me).

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

no one can add me now from the forums because btags arent in.

I can create a character on Faerlina and do the following…

• I can add you without you even knowing.

• While added, I can see what zone you are doing and can see what you are doing in game.

• I can message and mail you without your consent, meaning I can create a number of alts to harass you relentlessly and you wouldn’t even know its me.

You can do the same thing to me on retail aswell, you can add me and see what I do in game without even me knowing and you can message me and mail me without my consent.

With btags, I can’t do the following…

• I can’t add you without you even knowing.

• To see what you do online in the Blizzard platform requires your consent to someone requesting you to be friends with you.

• I can’t message you at all to you, only way for me to talk to you directly in a private manor is that I need to send a you a friend request.

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

ive admitted plenty of times that i’ll never reveal my more played toons and this is obviously the best way to preserve anonymity.

Fun Fact

Btags being implemented to the WoW forums is not going to effect you negatively or effect how you post.

You say that you post on Moondoggie, which classic characters can’t be traced, adding a btag next to it in any shape or form won’t expose your other characters.

You will still have this anonymity if WoW forums get btags, no need to fear monger.

[Weidmann-stormreaver]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

the last 2 to 3 numbers will not show ill agree to this because no one can add me still.

No one can add you even if you have all your numbers showing unless you give them a request to add you .
For some one to add you with BTAGS "
YOU MUST ASK THEM TO ADD YOU

Now if it is them asking you to add them , then just ignore the request.

As a side note a person now can ad you just by using Server -Character without your knowledge.