No, you did that for me.
You have multiple posts hand waving away SOD’s RMT issues, because you don’t want to acknowledge that RMT still thrives without GDKPs. If the removal of gdkps doesn’t kill RMT, then what point do you even have?
Unless you specifically just hate gdkps and use RMT as a shield against criticism.
It’s not his argument. The Amntir or w/e is the one who says WoW dies without GDKP. Even in 2006 when WoW was gaining subscribers on a parabolic curve the game was dead because of no GDKPs.
“Without issue” my guy you’re going to get ZG gear and then no one will want to invite you to anything unless you buy gold. Because you’re not geared enough to be a carry. And not rich enough to join AQ40/Naxx.
You’re joining raids ran by gold sellers, not people who are playing the game for fun.
This is a video game. Not your job. GDKP turns it into a job. Classic WoW endgame isn’t that hardcore.
I’m not hand-waving SOD RMT issues. Those posts are me begging someone to explain where the demand for gold is in SOD since consumables are almost free in cash compared to on Era. What are people swiping for on SOD? Even there are bots, there is not a lot of demand for their gold because it is dirt cheap.
Era on the other hand, has very expensive gold because you can buy full BIS with it.
Whelp there it is folks. The official policy of anyone running a GDKP raid. When you sign up in discord you have to check the “Yes I purchased my gold from a gold selling website” checkbox or else they don’t roster you. Yep that’s totally how it works. No sarcasm here. No sarcasm at all. Nope I’m definitely not being sarcastic.
How’s this relevant to it not being a carry raid from retail by a different name?
Please address this:
Retail carry raid sellers also do the raid very smoothly as it’s the only way to be able to sell slots in your raid. The difference between retail carries and classic era carries is that you can sell far more slots to whales because the content is so easy in vanilla.
Don’t be ridiculous. They check buyers gold. Buyers can’t farm gold from GDKP’s because they’re not geared enough to carry.
So how are you getting the gold for AQ/Naxx if you started raiding today?
They buy the gold because most fresh 60s dont have enough gold to buy there 60 mount let alone the 5k min to get into a GDKP for naxx/aq
Your information on GDKPs is based on what you’ve heard probably from other people who have never done a GDKP. You actually have no idea what you’re talking about. How could you if you have no experience in the matter?
I see no problems with any of these things as long as they’re within reason. If you feel things are taken too far with a particular raid leader don’t raid with them again.
Every time I’ve seen a fairly valuable item not get bid on the min bid gets dropped on it. Often this will happen until someone finally bids on it or until someone just names their price. You can be pretty cheap if you’re patient.
Are you really asking me how to make gold? Are you actually trying to pose your question as a rhetorical question where the obvious answer is supposed to be that it’s impossible to ever afford to get gear in an AQ40 or Naxx GDKP without buying gold? Because that is absolute nonsense. That’s some stubborn unimaginative tauren 
Sounds like someone wanted to get carried and got put in their place.
A core feature of GDKPs is that the leaders make effort to keep the carries happy and push away the players that drag down the raid.
Okay, so we’re just admitting it is a paid carry-raid now? Part of the deception that GDKP uses is to pretend that it is a PUG DKP system.
If you can’t actually:
Then how are you getting it? INB4 you talk about your 144 level 35 characters using their profession cooldowns again. You’re only 1.25 decades away from making profit on leveling them.
The gold from leveling / payout should get one to a hybrid / carry in zg / aq20 / mc within a month or two of lockouts at most.
You can join ZG / AQ20 / MC without gold if you are a hybrid / carry. It takes a few runs to get to that level - but you have to spend a few weeks or months getting gear.
You seem to think people should be able to to do BWL / AQ40 or even naxx within their first month at lvl 60 on their first toon. That’s now how vanilla works.
No, that’s how vanilla works if you buy gold to join your RMT-raids.
Let me put it to you a different way. You find me a GDKP raid where the raid is not fully cleared and I’ll find you 10 non-GDKPs where the raid is not fully cleared.
People will always get carried. But it happens far less in GDKPs.
naxx raids don’t want bad players. Doesn’t matter if they have a million gold.
There are plenty of players in near bis gear with gold to spend on the expensive items.
Your saying this about the only loot system that literally segregates its raiders into groups called: carries and buyers.
A loot system that is literally looking for buyers to join the raid and get carried.
GDKP shills truly have no shame.
A buyer is someone who needs gear from the raid.
In non-gdkps everyone is a buyer because the system falls apart since carries quit right as they get bis.
To be clear that is the feature of GDKPs - it keeps raiders coming after they have all the items and they attend as a ‘carry’ to get gold.
You’ve been wondering where people are getting gold??? it is all those carries - a person in half blues can be a carry in ZG if they have the right blues.
You don’t really have carries and buyers in Naxx. Much less so in AQ40 as well. There just isn’t much room for people to be carried in those raids. ZG, AQ20 and MC are usually the only places you’ll see people being hard carried.
And again, people who get carried exist whether it’s GDKP or not. This “segregation” is not at all unique to GDKP. If you’re undergeared for a raid then that’s all there is to it. You’re undergeared regardless of the loot system.
GDKP just does more to incentivise you to not be undergeared.
What is it that I have to be ashamed of?
Hey chief, there’s nothing there about dragging down the raid. Either it’s a DKP system using gold - or you’re just selling runs under a different name.
Why would a player in the raid lose his cut for refusing to bid on an item that he doesn’t want? Is it maybe because he’s not actually there as a participant, but as a whale who must fund the pot?