Right and people get banned for racism, sexism, other bigotry
Not for “disagreeing”
So yea, defending bigotry and being surprised when people say y’all are full of it
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Can we stop using freedom of speech wrong.
Freedom of speech is the right to express ideas and opinions without government interference, punishment, or retaliation.
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I mentioned earlier that I did get a ban for disagreeing. I had to talk to a supervisor who said I did nothing wrong and reversed it. It’s sad because the guy before was ready to die on his hill.
More or less yeah. Obviously not all rights but I would like to see some scaled back when it comes to non physical locations.
My freedom of speech has never once been infringed in an online setting.
I am well known for being argumentative, too. Seen plenty of bans in places, and had a few vacations from here, as well. No in-game bans for WoW, but I’ve had months of time off Overwatch for chat-related reasons.
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So you want to infringe on someone else’s rights instead of just using a service that better aligns with your wants?
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cool story guys, it doesn’t make it any better that the games social aspect dies because of this system.
What system?
To an extent it touches a dozen other topics… im not even sure how to bring it up in a sensible way without an essay.
Essentially though I rather speech in online spaces IF IT MUST BE regulated be regulated by a local government that is elected rather then handed over to private corporations. I don’t believe private property rights should be applied to digital spaces and they need their own sub category.
As it stands payment processers especially wield an immense amount of power when it comes to controlling what can and can’t be said. I don’t believe it is healthy for them to have that kind of control.
So you are defending bigotry
It’d be a great point if you weren’t just wrong. Social aspect is fine, at least among adults who know how to follow the rules.
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Local government of the internet? Regulating the content allowed on private servers that aren’t paid for by the internet government?
Depends if you are Canadian or not but our internet infrastructure is a tragomdy.
Why not?
What’s the difference between a digital space and a movie theater? (In this regard.)
Your idea would undermine private property rights and the Constitution.
You’re never going to get what you think you want.
Thank goodness.
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People regularly die in LFR. The difficulty shouldn’t be increased they won’t be able to handle it.
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I disagree with you, mostly. I respect Private Property rights. View each website as someone’s house or private business. Other than those run by the Govt.
The backbone of the internet that carries data is something that there is argument for the Govt controlling as a utility.
The individual websites and games created by private companies - no. Those are covered by laws regarding consumer protections for fraud, really bad illegal dangerous stuffs, and laws covering communications accessibility. Beyond that, it is up to the Private Property owner to regulate behavior and set rules. They have the right to remove people who don’t follow those rules.
What you suggest would turn Private Property rights on their head and give some “elected persons” the right to dictate what every business and private property space can do. Even your house.
Nope. No way.
The basic infrastructure as a utility with Govt controls and oversight instead of only a couple ISPs controlling it is up for discussion, but not the end websites/games/spaces.
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Think we will agree to disagree. I see a private corporation as inferior to an elected official ( I would truly prefer neither but as I grew older I realized anarchy can only exist as a transitional state).
It is what it is as they would say.
I would hope it didn’t need much wisdom to conclude this… thankfully, private property laws in the US and CA are not akin to anarchy.
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I see both as having drawbacks. However private companies I can decide to spend my money or just avoid them. I have no NEED to interact with them.
The Govt on the other hand I have no choice. I have to deal with certain Govt functions. The persons elected tend to not do a great job with that. I mean, have you SEEN the types of people who get elected? Some are decent and try hard, at least at first. A lot are just in it for the attention, fame, and connections.
I also have a HUGE issue with the influence corporations have on Govt. via campaign donations and lobbying.
This is not the place for all that though. Suffice to say, I don’t think you will ever convince me that private property like WoW, that is built by investors and customers, should ever be run by the Govt. That is theft of property if the Govt takes it over - or eminent domain. Depends on how you view it. There really is no argument that the Govt should control the rules in a game though. I just can’t see it.
We already have a vote in what happens in WoW. We can either continue to pay them money or not. Not playing, or paying, is how customers have a say in what a company does. If everyone was flocking to a game with no rules in chat, you can bet other companies would be running to profit off it too. They are not, and it is because most consumers don’t want a rule free zone for their games.
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