Balancing the Vote-Kick Penalty: A Call for Change

[Sumwun-tichondrius]

@Armisian-archimonde

Balancing classes is definitely a challenge. If we can dream of perfectly balanced classes, why not aim for a fairer vote kick system too?

stop your logic and having me agree. it’s against my rules of engagement.

[Duhammad-grobbulus]

@Armisian-archimonde

If getting kicked means advocating for fairness

Good thing its already fair.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

@Armisian-archimonde

Balancing classes is definitely a challenge. If we can dream of perfectly balanced classes, why not aim for a fairer vote kick system too?

1. Not relevant here.
2. The system is fair. Stop whatever is getting you kicked so much that it’s kept you up gor 3 days

[Thunderçatz-zuljin (Thunderçatz)]

If I knew that there would be more GMs reviewing reports and extremely harsh punishments for trying to circumvent a Deserter Debuffs, I would agree to remove the debuff from kicks.

As it stands, that’s not happening. All I really hope for are extra measures to deter lazy/oblivious “yes” voting, like a character/word limit to vote “yes” on kicks.

[Armisian-archimonde]

@Duhammad-grobbulus

Good thing its already fair.

Even if that were true, there’s always room for improvement.

[Duhammad-grobbulus]

@Thunderçatz-zuljin

All I really hope for are extra measures to deter lazy/oblivious “yes” voting

People are just as likely to lazily vote no.

[Dracarian-medivh]

Blizz has no intention of improving it

[Julaalu-lightninghoof]

I wouldn’t be too sure about that.

[Armisian-archimonde]

@Dracarian-medivh

Blizz has no intention of improving it

Community feedback has led to improvements before. I’d rather hope they’ll surprise us with some improvements.

[Dracarian-medivh]

@Julaalu-lightninghoof

I wouldn’t be too sure about that.

I would

@Dracarian-medivh

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/52363

Groups are empowered to manage their own members through the vote-kick system. If the majority of the group feels a player should be removed, they can initiate a vote-kick to remove them. The system is entirely under the control of our players. Players may choose to remove any other player from the group for any reason, provided the vote to kick passes.

Customer Support does not provide loot, gold, or quest/achievement progress not gained as a result of being kicked from a group.

If you have any feedback about the group management system and how you think it can be improved, please submit a suggestion in-game:

1. Press the Esc key to open the Game Menu, and click Support.
2. Click Submit feedback or bug report.
3. Click Submit a suggestion.
4. Follow the guidelines on the submission form, and enter your suggestion.
5. Click Submit.

Note: Groups formed outside of the queue system (Guild Runs, Mythic +, etc.) will not utilize the vote-kick system. Instead those groups will have one party leader that controls who gets invited or removed.

According to Blizz, everything is working as intended.

Updated 3 weeks ago.

[Julaalu-lightninghoof]

@Armisian-archimonde

Community feedback has led to improvements before. I’d rather hope they’ll surprise us with some improvements.

They have. It’s just requires more community noise to get the change.

[Armisian-archimonde]

@Dracarian-medivh

Updated 3 weeks ago.

I understand that a developer made a comment 3 weeks ago, but systems and policies can always evolve based on player feedback and changing circumstances.

[Karvalli-proudmoore]

What if I never get kicked, can I have a different reward?

[Dracarian-medivh]

They don’t care. They wiped their hands of it.

[Abendroth-zuljin (Abendroth)]

Give feedback that is possible without causing more problem. You didn’t reply to my post explaining how both of your “solutions” are worst than status quo.

[Armisian-archimonde]

@Dracarian-medivh

They don’t care. They wiped their hands of it.

I respectfully disagree. I believe that continued feedback and discussion can lead to positive changes over time.

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

[Julaalu-lightninghoof]

If they have to continue to deal with 10 threads a week on this issue. They might take another look at it.

[Thunderçatz-zuljin (Thunderçatz)]

Considering most “yes” prompts people see involve things like are you sure you want to equip this item, it will become soulbind or are you sure you want to disenchant this item, I don’t think no is as common as yes.

[Sarama-firetree]

If you go too long without getting kicked, the Arbiter will randomly kick someone for you. This will not be limited to queued content.

[Vermînkîng-crusader-strike]

dont change this. i enjoy kicking out people who are holding my group back.