Balancing the Vote-Kick Penalty: A Call for Change

Well the issue is they don’t play well with others at all, which is why they’re getting kicked in the first place.

Interesting how Karvalli, Koyoko, and Duhammad who have all consistently replied to my posts calling me a troll, conveniently did not address this question or my other post declaring intent.

I ask again, in that instance, your friend did not break the social contract, be disruptive, a troll or anything of the sort. Is the kick and subsequent deserter debuff justified as you’ve been telling me and Lio are? All kicks are accurate and deserved, right?

Yes, my friend can be removed for any reason. However, if my friend was new to the game I would be there with them to ensure things go smoothly.

Correct.

because they dont have friends in game and dont have a guild. lol.
The REAL question here is…why is anyone losing sleep over my suggestion?
Because it feels like arguing just to hear oneself argue, not any legit point.

PUGS are being murdered by these kick happy clowns and if someone wants to progress in AI dungeons, then just like DELVES, it should be an option

Then you can do it in normal where it’s already available. It’s to see the story and do quests you’d otherwise be unable to do.

Are you saying you are in support of those who kicked your friend? You have zero issue with your friend being maliciously kicked for no reason?

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double standards, dont ya know :wink:
You are the troll but if you reciprocate they start playing victim real quick. lmao

one of them was talking about harassment and bullying in another thread while LITERALLY bullying and trying to stifle opposing views lmao.

Cant take them seriously in here most days

Yeah if the other three people in the group wanted my friend out for getting lost and not contributing to the clear?

Better question is why are you not helping your friend to not get lost.

Here’s a hypothetical question for you now.

If I join a group and one person is consistently pulling too many mobs, causing wipes, and yelling at everyone for being bad, should my group be able to kick that person?

If the majority did not want to play with my friend, then yes, they were in their right to remove my friend.

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you wont get an honest answer of that question in here.
IF he responds honestly, he’ll undermine his position.

Because my question was not about MY friend, it was about a hypothetical situation. Good reading comprehension though.

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Why are you avoiding my hypothetical situation? I answered yours.

lmao…I know what we can do …I dont need you to educate me.
I’ll CONTINUE to make the request to open up AI dungeons…your permission NOT required :+1:

Ok my guy, keep dreaming.

Because his hypothetical situation involves 1 player being empowered to grief and troll as much as they want without repercussions.

I most certainly will

WE wanted flight day one without PF
THEY laughed and said it wasnt gonna happen.
HERE we are.

WE wanted the Bruto AH mount back
THEY laughed and said it wasnt gonna happen.
HERE we are.

WE wanted player housing
THEY laughed and said it wasnt gonna happen.
HERE we are.

WE wanted soloable dungeons
THEY laughed and said it wasnt gonna happen.
HERE we are.

WE wanted solo progression
THEY laughed and said it wasnt gonna happen.
HERE we are.

My answer is I would have, and ACTUALLY have, ensured that people I play with are with me at all times. And would be upset, unlike your lot, if they were unfairly kicked.

And kicked for not contributing to the dungeon? For being new and not knowing their way back? What an extremely gaslighting and gatekeeping comment. LOL

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Figure it out

Answer that

There are some of us that HELP new players…
And then there are some of us who ARENT MMO players but pretend to play one on TV…

As some kicks are not justified, some are. If you’re trying to insinuate that I am in support of no penalty for disruptive players to be kicked, you’ll have to try harder. Kick and use the report player function.

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