Okay but you get to say why you want it and we get to say why we don’t want it.
As for letting people have their piece without commenting.
First of all, posting repeat threads is a violation of forum rules.
Secondly look at it from all angles.
You guys ask us to stop commenting in threads because we’re tired of it.
In this hypothetical world we as asked.
You guys have all your merry little discussions and because we’re staying away blizzard sees no one disagreeing with this idea.
They decide to implement all these ideas and once again the people who just wanted to go back to vanilla don’t have that. Again.
How is that even fair to those who don’t want changes?
How is that even fair to those who don’t come to the forums who saw classic advertised, log into the game, only to experience what is objectively not classic, but more like retail set at level 60?
And frankly why do you think it is okay for people to see what is advertised as classic/vanilla, and as authentic an experience as possible, etc, and come ask for post vanilla changes?
I mean that exists in all of the forums no? People will always try to make their wants a vocal point of the game. It’s best not to try and take things personally and if it bothers you a lot just report and move along.
I didn’t ask you to stop commenting. At all. That’s the opposite of what I said. I answered your question…which was why is it not okay to say ‘no.’
It’s not in your best interest to be unkind to the people who come in here. They’re not all “trolls.” I would wager that most of them are like me. Older (as in over 30) vets who used to play vanilla and really want to relive it. OR…they’re younger or newer wow players who never saw the original game.
They come in here and innocently comment and get utterly annihilated in comments. That’s shooting yourselves in the foot.
Do what you want.
And fair doesn’t enter into it. Plus, Blizzard is giving you exactly what you want. They made that VERY clear in their con presentation. So I don’t understand all the anger and angst. That’s it.
And frankly why do you think it is okay for people to see what is advertised as classic/vanilla, and as authentic an experience as possible, etc, and come ask for post vanilla changes?
Because the wow player base is literally millions of people. WoW is a product, and WoW Classic is also a product. Like the regular forums and like the vanilla forums back in the day, people are going to come and ask for what they want/make a case for what they want in forums.
Going nuclear on anyone who disagrees with you is the part that isn’t okay. As I said, I haven’t seen you doing that, so I’m not talking about you personally.
I just think some perspective on the tone of this gig is in order. I literally saw somebody saying anyone who posted about stuff the #nochanges cartel doesn’t like should be banned. Seriously? Perspective.
Now. I’m going back to my “barf of Azeroth” server to play my gorgeous new-model dwarf shaman in her mog gear. I’ll see you all on my old-model dwarf priest in her Dun Morogh whites when the classic servers open. And I hope we’ll be joined by millions…and that we’ll all have a good time together.
They already did when they said what Classic would be. Dual Spec isn’t going to be in Classic, and neither will flying mounts, LFD/LFR or transmog. The point of Classic is to get Vanilla as close as possible to how it was back then, not make Vanilla 2.0.
That’s the thing though, I believe they were pretty clear that their intent was to recreate Vanilla and not add QoL features. And there’s been posters (not you, obviously) that believe that until Blizzard explicitly says “X feature won’t be in Classic” means that “X feature” will be in Classic.
And when you see the same trolls posting the same bait threads over and over, seeing people post “I want X feature that wasn’t in Vanilla be in Classic” get old real fast. I lurk more than I post and I’d imagine more vocal posters are even more frustrated than I am. See ya in Classic.
I’ve also seen someone say that any One who doesn’t have an active sub shouldn’t be able to post.
You can’t pretend that it’s just the people who don’t want changes are toxic.
We literally have one person who is asking for transmog who willfully ignores all the arguments against transmog and continues to pretend r hat there change has no negative even after having them pointed out.
Said person claimed it would make everyone happy and had no downside.
When all the negatives were pointed out and how people in fact did not want transmog they literally resorted to saying that well enchanting wax expensive anyway, what’s it matter if we make it more expensive.
Or, people ninjaed loot anyway. What’s it matter if we give them more reasons too.
These people also frequently violate forum rules by creating new threads about topics already discussed.
Well, you actually ARE out of line making those types of requests when the Classic Community wants an authentic experience AND Blizzard said they will do their best to deliver an authentic experience.
So, next time, before you make these types of suggestions, perhaps you can respect the foundational concept behind this project…to play an authentic recreation of Vanilla WoW.
If Blizzard announces a remastered version of Classic several years from now, then go crazy with those types of suggestions.
They would need a mana regen mechanic.
They would need some talents revamped. (Two entire talents refer to stuff that happens when you get crit…)
They would need to have tankadins specific gear.
They would need more tps
No to changing the classes and no to dual spec or cheap respecs. The whole point of the talent system is that you are not supposed to be good at everything. The respec system that starts cheap and ends at 50g was an effective way to allow players to fix mistakes while discouraging abuse of the feature.
I’m not mad cuz of trolls and peoples opinions. I stated what I would like to see. I dont care if people get mad and tell me no.
However, I have learned one thing about Blizzard over the years. Classic wow will be hot fixed and patched or changed at least in some way from your idea of classic. Blizzard has never left any part of the game stand alone for too long.
Now I know some of you suck asses will post, “Blasphemy.”, because you hope a blue will acknowledge you in some little way in these forums. I personally don’t care what most of you think, just like you don’t care about what I think.
Blizzard is out to make money and they will change vanilla so more people come back and play and the money machine keeps rolling. Which means a limited endgame will have to have balanced tanks and healers. They want you to not only play, but to play until you have leveled every class until 60 and raided endgame for years.
You won’t do that rolling a prot warrior and only tanking on him. So, say what you want. IDC. Remember this post after 6 months after Classic Wow comes out. You will say, "Damn he was right. I’m so stupid. "
You will realize that Blizzard doesn’t care about lore and fairness and that only one thing drives this game and its employees to continue adding on to this game and that’s money.
They want to keep you addicted to this game and to keep coming back for your fix.
Maybe your real life sucks or is nonexistent. Maybe being a level 120 Night Elf helps you cope with not having any real friends or family. Maybe the game stops you from slowly realizing how sad and pathetic life is on your side of the screen.
You want to believe that Blizzard cares about you and that when you play Classic, that feeling you had all those years ago will come back. It won’t. It was a wonderful ride, but that part of your life is truly gone. I know, I felt it too.
You won’t get back the way it was because the number one Wow killer is Wow itself and you just haven’t realized it after all these years.
Now let the trolling begin. I think I deserve it.
I do not see the harm in adding a few tweaks to make druids and paladins more viable tanks. It was kind of stupid design to only have one tank class for raids anyway. Basically adding threat with a talent upgrade, thats all they would really need, a way to hold aggro.
I also do not have a problem with dual spec. It’s a nice addition if you like to balance your time. Here is the thing with dual spec that everyone forgets. Even if you respec you still pay a fee, its just instead of one now you have two. So even if you chose to respec one of those trees, which people will inevitably do, the end result is the same in paying the fee.
I also understand that making changes to classic isnt the best idea and personally feel that if any changes are made it should be after the game is released so we can see what problems arise.