Bad Idea, RDF is needed in 2022

Blizzard clearly would rather risk losing subs by not adding RDF, and at the same time slowing down leveling alts and slowing down general gameplay to trying and keep people subbed longer, they don’t think about the fact that people will just unsub and not play the game due no RDF being added (because it’s simply less fun). So its very counter productive, yes it does slow down leveling and make grouping for 1-70 content a lot harder, and at the same time, will eventually reduce player numbers and make it so there at even less people to play with, which will force them to add RDF anyways due to nobody 1-70 being able to fill a group. Not sure what they’re doing, seems like making Alchemy a useless profession and adding Heroic + are more important to them. They’re the ones making this not “Classic” by adding all these new features. RDF is not a new feature. People are fine with class changes from 3.3.5 being in Phase 1, but a good change like RDF that was also added in 3.3.5 is not okay? I really don’t understand what they’re doing right now smh.

RDF is a fine idea. However there are tools available to you right now to get you into dungeons quickly. I wrote a thread that goes over how you can easily get into groups!

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/how-to-get-a-dungeon-group-together-even-when-you-keep-getting-rejected

Do you EVER stop trolling? We don’t need to communicate in dungeons today - why? Because communication isn’t required to complete a dungeon.

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Every day, every thread, forever:

The reality is most people who don’t want RDF don’t even use group finder. They group with a guild or a Discord social. There’s no reason to be social anymore. There’s no mystique to the expansion. The fun and challenge has been patched and math’d out. Gamers have changed, not WoW. Every group I’ve ran with has been as quiet as a church mouse (sans a few tanks kicking people for no TBC gear). Hi’s happen, silence the entire run, then byes. There is no social aspect. There is no social engagement This was a ruse and lie - we all knew it was - it’s obvious now. The only true reality for RDF not being added, at this point, is dev laziness.

The worst part of it all is even if RDF was added this subsect of people who are obsessed with maliciously gatekeeping groups don’t even have to touch it. It’s not about others enjoyment, but their ability to ruin the game for others. Atypical juvenile gamer/twitch culture. This is overwhelmingly clear when you compare the behavior on forums to those against RDF. Unanimously trolls who don’t want the sanctity of their gameplay preserved (even though RDF was out in this patch) but want to control and ruin other’s gameplay

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Exactly. The mystique is dead. You don’t have to figure out mechanics. You don’t have to figure out your BiS. The game has been killed by time, mathematics, and the current gamer mindset/culture of minimal investment, high efficiency, high reward.

You don’t fall in those buckets? You’re in for a bad time from a bitter, aged community who expects you to be TBC bis geared, optimal rotation, etc. fresh off the Northrend boat. Nobody wants to talk because there’s notihng to talk about: “Just google it.”

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The part about content is bleh. People will complete dungeons with or without it……

The majority of players want RDF, Reddit and these forums are proof of that. We just have a small minority of certain posters here that make these threads hundreds of posts due to 10 pro RDF players replying to 1 anti RDF poster and that 1 anti RDF poster replying over and over to everyone.

When most of what you’re doing is the meta stuff, interfaces, listing, group forming, it’s going to suck…

You’re going to notice that it’s not fun because the bulk of your experience is doing paper work in the interfaces.

These dungeons are CAKE.

It will leave a mark somewhere in your mind that most of what you did during your stay was paper work inside the interfaces.

votes yes to rdf

my vote is no, while i think it’s helpful it is definetly not required like some people make it out to be.

I’ve had 0 problems using the LFG tool, managed to get a group for every dungeon from 70-80.

I think people are trying to create a problem thats not there.

You could be onto something here! The new generation of players filtering in which are much younger than the original players have zero social skills and are used to be handed everything. I don’t think we should make allowances such as RDF for them yet though. It should be introduced later on in the cycle of Wrath. Let them suffer a little longer.

As I said in my last post, people no longer play MMORPG to socialize they just want to play the games, people use actual social media to socialize now, MMORPG are just RPG with multiplayer option now, I legit tried to be social and just stopped to try when a dude told me “Stop talking and continue to pull” and other tries was meant with silence, I’m not ultra social myself so for me to even try was a miracle.

Unless you are in a guild there is no such thing a actual meaningful social interactions in random pugs, in over I would say easily 100 pugs only like 3-4 of them had people who were willing to talk even a tiny bit period.

Absolutely wrong

Amen Brother.

It doesn’t. The social aspect is the same with or without RDF

We might as well have RDF because nobody ever says anything in dungeons. The last dungeon I did, I was invited and we did the whole dungeon with the only words having been typed by me.

Your same argument is used to defend RMTs. It is why most mobile games are filled with them.

An unmoderated board after 2016 has been a good idea. :wink:

Why wouldn’t you want something that everyone wants.

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