How to get a dungeon group together even when you keep getting rejected!

Hey!

Looks like lots of people are struggling to get into dungeon groups, so as a long time group leader I thought I’d put together a quick tutorial for people who can’t get into a group.

Reasons you’re getting rejected

  • No reason at all

Yup it’s true, the main reason you’ll get rejected from groups is for no good reason at all! Chances are good most of your rejections are from groups that are full. Don’t let this get you down. Don’t take it personally, just keep applying! If you’re new try to look for groups with the ‘New Players Welcome’ flag, but don’t let this stop you from applying either way.

  • You’re DPS and just clicked ‘Request to Join group’ without a whisper

So did 10 other people. Chances are they wont see your name in that pop up until they’re full and mass declining them. Unlike retail there is no different message you receive for a full group vs a meaningful decline. Give group leaders that benefit of the doubt and assume the group was full.

  • You’re DPS and sent a whisper but all you said was ‘Inv’

Sometimes this is all you need, but if the group leader got 10 other ‘inv’ whispers they may not pick yours. Try to advocate for your skills/gear if you have any, or be at the stone ready to summon. Make sure your whisper message stands out among 10 other whispers and is clear that you add value to the group.

  • You’re a tank or a healer and did either of the above

You need to tell the group leader what role you are in whisper - LFG is a bit buggy and it’s hard to trust the role assignment, make sure you tell the leader you’re Tank or Healer

  • You have greens/boosted gear

A party leader can’t actually see this until you’re in their party, so apply anyways. If you’re getting kicked for having bad gear, try again with a new party or see my guide below for starting a new one yourself!

  • You’re too low level

This is one of the few things the LFG tool shows a party leader, so chances are if the party leader is level 72 and you’re 68 they aren’t going to add you to their UK party. Keep trying or see my guide below for starting one yourself!

  • You’re not prepared or playing poorly

Once you get into a dungeon group they may still kick you. Make sure you’re doing basic dungeon 101 etiquette like letting the tank get aggro, letting the healer drink, not pulling extra mobs, doing the best damage you can do.

Run through a quick checklist before you enter a dungeon:
Do you have the best quality food/water for your level?
Is your gear repaired?
Do you have space in your bag.

And once you’re in the dungeon:
Did you buff everyone?
Are you in the right stance?
Is your pet correct for the dungeon, and in the right stance?
Did you say hi?

Being prepared and looking like a sentient human being goes a long way :slight_smile:

Tried all that and STILL getting rejected from every group!?

Time to make your own group!

  1. Be prepared - I know it might be intimidating to have to take the lead but follow this quick check list to make sure you’re ready!

Repair your gear
Have the best quality food/water for your level
Have space in your bag. Especially if you want to do multiple runs.
Head towards the summoning stone.

  1. List yourself in the Group Finder (Hotkey I by default)

If you’ve never done this before, first select your role. And since you’re new to leading and struggling to find a group, might as well check the flag that you’re new player friendly :slight_smile:
Go into the dungeon tab and tick off the dungeon you’re looking for.
Put something in the comment box. maybe ‘chill group, leveling gear welcome’
Press ‘List self’

  1. Start inviting people out of LFG

Once you’re listed for the right dungeon you’ll see a list of everyone else who wants to do that dungeon. Start inviting them. Fill your group with 1 Tank, 1 Healer and 3 DPS. If there is one of those roles missing from LFG, keep looking but move to step 4

  1. Advertise the the LookingForGroup Channel

Find out what channel your LookingForGroup chat ended up in. For me it’s 4. So I’d post ‘/4 LF Tank for UK - PST’
Keep posting this advertisment for as long as you need to fill your roles. Try to respect the flow of your LFG chat and don’t spam but also make sure you’re posting to keep the message visible. If you’re struggling to fill your group this way move on to step 5

  1. Advertise in the Local Chat of the Dungeon Area

Similar to the step above, you can advertise (lightly) in the local chat for the area the dungeon is in. This is your best chance to get people in that level range who are interested in that content. Do not spam in this chat, just post once every 5~10 minutes.
It’s very unlikely that you’ll need to do anything beyond this in the current situation. Lots of people are leveling right now. But if you’re running out dated dungeons you may have to move to step 6.

  1. Whisper targeted players

I have at times when doing old leveling dungeons had to open the /who list and ask shadow priests to come heal my dungeon. Don’t be scared of a bit of social interaction. Worst case they say ‘no leave me alone’ Be respectful and polite when you’re whispering people about dungeons. Who /who and check areas where people of the right level would be, or check by level cap. Send one message asking something nice like ‘Hey! We’re putting a group together for Sunken Temple, any chance you want to come heal for us?’

  1. Have fun!

If you follow these steps you’ll get a great group together and I hope you have lots of fun doing your dungeon!

Once you do get a group together, and everything goes well, considering asking the group to add you as a friend to do more dungeons together in the future! Remember to add a ‘note’ so you remember them, something like ‘Good Healer- UK Dungeon’ will help remind you who they are. Next time you’re struggling to fill that last spot in your group, try your friends list!

Let me know if you have any questions or are still struggling!

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as long as u can make ur own group i will never ever take any excuses about “gatekeeping”

people have the option, they just don’t even bother.

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An additional thing you can try is being pre-emptive “This is a boosted char but I have been maining this spec for xxx timeframe.” Will it always help? No, but imho it can help to acknowledge things so they don’t look like you are just showing up for a carry.

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Well yea. no one is stopping you. So therefore they can be gatekeeping you.

Great bit of advice, I for one appreciate the people who are upfront and tend to pick them just out of respect for that.

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im not gonna argue the meaning of gatekeeping

if u can make ur own group and instead ur complaining about being rejected from groups idk what to tell u chief. nothing is gonna change

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I hope my guide helps those people learn to make their own group!

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I don’t believe in the whole gatekeeping BS that’s being talked about.

At the same time, I REFUSE to have to build a resume and have an interview to join a simple dungeon group.

Bring back RDF already… It’s just easier.

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Your point sank when you gave wind to refusing players due to level, gear, class, spec, and content. This is anti-player, toxic behavior. You’re part of the problem – so not surprising you can’t see the true solution: RDF.

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It should but ppl are lazy. They are just gatekeeping themselves.

You’re welcome to pretend it doesn’t happen, but my guide is about the reality of the game we’re playing and how to overcome that :slight_smile: Thanks!

I think you’re in the wrong post dear, this is a guide for how to get into a group!

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Very accurate post OP.

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Appreciate the positive nature of your post, OP. Good on you.

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Agreed.

Gatekeeping does not exist. It being used just amounts to you giving some random person control of your enjoyment and you should never do that.

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I know it happens - I never suggested it didn’t? It’s not acceptable. This is why group finder is a trash system and RDF should be implemented. The game set level range, gear expectations, and class roles. If you meet those under no circumstances should you be denied play. Group finder allows this.

Okay can you please not post about off-topic arguments in my thread? Thank you.

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tl;dr If you want to join a group just read this guys novel that basically tells you to write an essay every time you want to join a group. zzZZzZZz Don’t worry, this is perfectly acceptable. /s

Dear Blizzard, just give us RDF thanks.

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Where did I suggest that? :face_with_raised_eyebrow: The only spot in my guide that you as a group leader needs to write anything is maybe possibly if you can’t find anyone to join and have to whisper people. ‘LFM UK’ isnt exactly a novel…is it?

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Go create your own forum then.

My post was on topic:
About Wrath Classic
About Dungeon Group Finder

Apologies if that is taking away from your self-back patting and e-likes farming. But your “just keep trying!” summation on utilizing a broken and toxic system does far more damage than good.

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It’s taking away from people who legitimately need help putting together a group. Because let me tell you, you’ll never get into UK by crying on the forums :joy:

I’m not anti-RDF so you’re wasting your time. Go get your UK group together, have fun, and good luck!

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