Azure Waterstrider and my anger

You’re just here to complain to complain. Fine. But my point stands: If you equip the free, provided waterwalking mount equipment, and never change it, literally nothing has changed except all your mounts can waterwalk (sky golem excepted).

I’m here to complain, because it’s a bad system.

Perhaps you’ll start to understand this later on, when Blizz decide that none of the existing equipment will work in future content.

Your point is incomplete, and inaccurate.
I’ve already had to forego ww on 2 alts, because i needed to send the “free” ww tokens to characters which were too low level to have one sent to them.

2 Likes

you actually read his letter?

Again…wowhead link isn’t official news… it’s like you dont understand the words that you read.

You need to grow up is what you really need to do. How is adding mount equipment a bad system?

because I see it as an opportunity to add more content. play around with different mount equipment. It’ll make it so that I actually don’t have to use the strider 100% of the time. I can actually go back to pushing the random mount button.

Mount equipment was probably one of the few positive changes in BFA…

All you are doing is crying like a baby because they changed one of your mounts abilities… my GOD you are childish.

go buy two more for 50g…takes like 5 min…

then go cry more.

Actually…Considering the fact that mount equips are mount wide and not specific to one, if you ever decided you wanted to use a different equipment, you’d have to take off water walking for something else, and now no longer have any mount that can WW.

Granted, yes, you can keep another equipment in your bag, but it’s pretty annoying to have to swap out all the time and iirc, you can only carry one water walking at a time.

They could fix all this by making the equipment mount specific. It’d just make more sense that way.

2 Likes

WW loses value tremendously when flying becomes available anyway… which is in two weeks.

It adds value to equipment at certain points of the expansion.

Next expansion might not need a lot of WW…

Either way it’s a system they can build on.

1 Like

They upgraded ALL of your mounts to WW. I applied the free equip on all my toons and every one now has WW on all mounts… I got upgraded.

Then you are upset and want to go to Classic?

I hope you do go to Classic, but I have a suspicion it is going to rock your perceptions in a baaaaad way.

Right, but it should be mount specific anyway. More customization options are nice. It’d be fun to be able to say, “This is my WW mount. This is my anti daze mount. This mount has a parachute I gave it!” While having all these different mounts on my hotbars for various purposes.

The system as it is now just seems tacked on and underdeveloped.

1 Like

for crying out loud.
wowheads information is taken directly from blue posts.
how is that “not official”?

taking something away, and making people pay to get it back, isn’t “adding more content”.

ok, give me 100g.
everyone keeps telling us they’re free.

in fact, if it’s not a problem, perhaps you’d be prepared to fork out for everyone who is in the same situation.

you want to buy us boosts too?
…so we can get all our lowbies past the levels where they’re grounded?
people have already explained many times over, that this is an issue for lower level characters who can’t fly.

and there are people who are opposed to doing pathfinder for whatever their reasons… some people don’t want to fly.

You seem to think that everyone plays the game the same way you do.

4 Likes

Oh I agree. I thought it was that way before actually trying it out. It just seemed liek the natural choice. Maybe Blizzard will implement a change in the future. Would be nice. But like any new system… it’s just new.

Oh i dunno… maybe because it’s not official… it takes information from the PTR mostly… and blue posts tend to change things. it’s still a third party source…

giving WW to all your mounts is adding content. Giving anti daze and parachute is adding content… opening up the possibility to future mount equipment is adding the possibility of old busted mounts no one ever uses because the strider is king… is adding content… it’s adding agency… and possibilities…

the reason the strider was nerfed is because i’m pretty sure statistically it is the most used mount at the start of non flying expansions. Literally the only mount me and my SO and my guild and all the people i play with ever use…

its old… it’s annoying… and it’s busted. Super happy they made this change. And regardless of the fact the harvester cant mount equipment… it still needs a nerf.

when a mount becomes the goto for whatever reason with no other options… it becomes overused and stale.

they are free for relevant characters… 100+

you should have more than enough gold to cover 50g… thats literally less than repairing one piece of equipment on a main…

you can do one gold WQ and get enough gold to buy 5 WW items… like holy crap are you milking this crap so much…

You seem to think it’s blizzard problem if those players choose not to get pathfinder… i mean… you have a lvl 20… you get it WW… ezpz… cry more i dunno you seem good at playing victim.

Well things are different now, all my characters have a buff that lets them walk on water with any mount since having the strider before the patch, and I have a lot of mounts. So maybe all the whining has paid off ?

6 Likes

oh right…

yeah i forgot about all that new water walking content.

so let’s make it fair across the board, and take away water walking as a class ability for characters below 100… because characters below 100 aren’t relevant for some reason…??

if you don’t care, you can just move along.

if we’ve got the rep, we should be able to access these items from the vendor at no charge, or have ww as a toggle option in the poorly designed equipment UI.

Not at all.
It’s the choice of the player, and their options just became fewer, not greater.
If they want to retain their ww, they have to sacrifice all the other options available.

Pointing out obvious flaws with a system, is not “playing the victim”.

6 Likes

There are no flaws… minor inconveniences for anything below 100? sure. Easily rectifiable? Sure.

Labeling a positive system change as the worst thing since wod is playing the victim…

it lets you WW on any mount… effectively making every mount as useful as the water strider… which adds agency…

Honestly don’t know… maybe you get it from leveling to 100? Maybe because it was easier to code for? Like the requirement is to be 100 to use the equipment… at least one toon on the account/server something like that and then it opens up to classes at 20+… maybe they had issues coding around that requirement when generating in game mail? Whatever the reason behind it was… they made sure you could get it for realllly cheap… for under 100… inconvenience at most for 40 levels (20-60 because thats when flying is available) that take literally 3 hours to do.

oh look… more of the same “i’m a victim”… think of it this way to try and make it as lamen for you as possible… Lets say i spend a day fixing the sidewalk in front of my house… I put effort, materials and even time into that.

7 years later the city decides they want new sidewalks to accommodate bikers. And even though my sidewalk is still looking good they change it.

Did i lose on that work? no I had value for that sidewalk for 7 whole years. more than enough of the effort that i put into it. And even though I felt like i owned that sidewalk… its really always been owned by the city.

in the end… i got use of a good sidewalk for 7 years… and even though it’s a little different now… it’s still a side walk. And i’m not going to cry over it…

Maybe it’s because I understand sunk costs… or that items will always have a limited life span… or because im an adult and realize its a game and it can change… who knows.

Almost entirely False.

If someone equipped speed or no daze, striders would not have it. People would use the faster/sturdier mounts except when crossing water. Safe fall? Mostly a joke, I don’t see that getting used much.

Anyone who really hated the striders would still equip water walking for cosmetic reasons, even if none of their mounts go faster on land or have daze protection.

And, honestly if you have to break things so that people will use your new feature, your new feature is pretty dumb.

8 Likes

I’m quite new to the game and not quite sure what is going on. From what I can tell, Blizzard removed a mount that was a rep grind to get, possibly because there was new mounts or mechanics at play in the new zones? I’ve seen that there are waterwalking shoes you can buy or maybe get in place of your lost mount as compensation?

I’m personally not a fan of having items taken away from me, especially if there was a grind or significant in game money spent on it.

5 Likes

Something not mentioned, any toon under 100 has lost the ww ability on their water strider. That’s not right! I worked hard for that strider and my low alts need it. Such ridiculous tactics for Blizzard to force on us. I can’t buy the level to 100, so all my low alts are penalized for being part of the game.

3 Likes

The mounts are still there. Their defining, ability, which they were named for, has been disabled, replaced by “equipment”. The Mount speed equipment is incompatible with water walking equipment, basically forcing people to give up water walking mounts if they want more of what mounts are for.

1 Like

Solution

Water striders KEEP water walking but CANNOT use the ANTI DAZE trait.

Because this is the WHOLE reason why they are complaining. Because they cant double up on a riding trait. Water walking AND no daze?

Nahh

Interesting, from the outside looking in, that seems needlessly complex. But I guess there were reasons.