Azure Waterstrider and my anger

[Xenovyah-area-52]

No, you’re trying to speak for what you see when you’re not out there like the farmers, law of averages applies as a whole, the longer you’re out there the more you see. I’m sorry you don’t quite understand how statistics work.

You’re salty they nerfed your mount, I get your frustration. I never said I didn’t understand. But as I said earlier, if they didn’t nerf it and gave waterwalking to every other mount, your mount would still be worthless because you couldn’t change the equipment on it and that’s facts.

So stop with your bias and your crying. I’m not even arguing with you, like I said earlier, you have no credibility with me, claiming you’re a farmer using gathermate… The most casual of the farming add-ons. Use TSM and undermine journal.

Also, you’re the type to disect what someone says to try to make a point, but at the end of the day, you’re irrational. What’s done is done. The mount is nerfed. For reasons that ironically I mentioned. Brought down to be just another mount. Not like blizz has logs of mount usage or anything.

[Felryn-area-52 (Felryn)]

these strider complaints get even more ridiculous every day lol

i cant tell if you guys are trolling or not

[Tentaclatrix-kelthuzad (Tentaclatrix)]

Sure, okay. Let’s go with that analogy then.

Now if you want the players on your team to run faster… They all have to throw away their nice gloves, even the special catcher’s mitt and switch to one-use disable gloves instead.

Who comes up with this kind of garbage?

Again, running faster in sports is essential to winning the game. Water walking isn’t winning wow, it’s merely convenient. Like nice gloves.

Apparently you have trouble understanding that?

[Raiyyn-area-52]

Where’s the link to it working as intended. All i saw on wowhead was you needed a 100+ level toon to open up mount gear on level 20+ alts.

That doesn’t apply to the mailed item.

If you create a new account you have to have a level 100 character (on your account, not on a specific server) in order to unlock the item that can be purchased from Nat Pagel for Anglers rep.

Once you have a level 100 character that unlocks the ability to obtain the item, any character you have, or create, will be able to use the item once they reach level 20.

The WoWHead post tells how the system works in general. It has nothing to do with what is mailed and to what characters it is mailed.

[Malvalen-sargeras (Malvalen)]

You get that item for ONE character.

Really? I got it in the mail on two of my alts so far.

[Slydog-norgannon]

and it’s 7 years later… and if they did the rep grind now… like recently… it takes 5 minutes and is really super easy.

So why grind out rep for any mount again, in 1 year or 7 years from now will it be too “ugly” to ride and be taken away? Does Blizzard really expect us to ever buy anything that rep requires again? will it be taken too? I know I will never buy another rep reward.

Do they really expect me to spend real money on a token and use that gold to buy a rep reward when it will just be taken in the future?

[Raiyyn-area-52]

Opinions vary from one whiner to the next. If I don’t know how it works then how I am able to have WW on at least 4 of my most played characters a few them under 100? Yes, that means HUSH and move on mister.

You might want to refrain from using the word “mister”.

You obviously don’t understand how the mailing system works since you continued to tell that guy to report a bug when he explained to you several times what was happening and that it was not a bug but how the “freebies” work.

What you have has nothing at all to do with whether or not you understand what the guy was telling you, which clearly you didn’t.

[Mazri-moon-guard]

Agree with OP giving in to others and their complaints has ruined this game over the last 8 years . I’m sure the mount was rendered useless due to whiners not wanting to do the rep . Though Blizz will state otherwise .

[Vaelistraz-dalaran]

You obviously don’t understand how the mailing system works

Well I just proved to you that I do know the system , Enjoy the silence!

/thread

[Xenovyah-area-52]

Fair enough and I get that. I understand the frustration players have, my issue is if they didn’t nerf it and didn’t give it the ability to have equipment people would have still complained. I feel it is a great change that people just have to adjust to.

The player base has the option to keep the strider the way it is or upgrade the mount with other equipments.

[Jops-zuljin]

my issue is if they didn’t nerf it and didn’t give it the ability to have equipment people would have still complained.

I wouldn’t have. Most of the people here who want the strider exempt from mount equipment JUST LIKE THE GOLEMS wouldn’t.

There’s always a few cranks that’ll complain that the sky is too blue, not blue enough or, simple that it shouldn’t be blue at all… so what.

But 50 threads and tens of thousands of posts? Over two mounts? Clearly there’s more to it than just people complaining just to complain.

If you don’t get that you’re not looking at it from the right angle.

[Parìyah-emerald-dream]

my issue is if they didn’t nerf it and didn’t give it the ability to have equipment people would have still complained

Where are all of these complaints? Where are there SO MANY complaints that they thought that out of all the things in game that need work, this was the one that needed addressed?

The player base has the option to keep the strider the way it is or upgrade the mount with other equipments.

I already had the option to keep it the way it was. Now if I want to use a mount that was specifically made to walk on water to do just that, I need a piece of equipment.

I feel it is a great change that people just have to adjust to.

I hope you feel the same way when the next “great change” they implement is making you use a piece of flying equipment to make your flying mounts fly.

[Xenovyah-area-52]

Maybe I’m not looking at it from the right angle. I just feel if they left it alone, it would just be another mount and not able to be equipped.

[Kiwì-dentarg (Kiwì)]

Actually it was a reward for an achievement, and back then it was not a simple few days grind like it is today. But you’re correct, gold is a lot easier to get these days than back in MOP. All I need to do is spend $20 and poof, 130k gold.

Nothing changed for me except a slot on the mount page. No Angler’s Exalted = no free equipment.

This will hold true with the majority of people who do not have the rep., and many who have the rep. I had to help multiple people who had the rep understand the process.

Some had zero clue that there was such a thing and didn’t understand what the token was that they got in the mail.

Some thought it was per mount and wanted to save their token until they decided what mount to use it on (and how to use it)

All of them did not know how to equip it.

I am sure that if the people in both of the guilds I belong to have no clue, there are a lot of other players who are in the same position.

How much is the equipment without Anglers Exalted?

Depends on what people sell it for on the AH.

I even helped my DK tank friend know that I could make her the speed equipment because she doesn’t need anything else.

rep equipment is limited to ONE in your inventory… So despite being cheap, it’s really inconvenient to get another if you need one.

They are figuring eventually you will get sick of going back out to the anglers so you’ll buy the crafted ones off the AH.

stop feeling entitled and just play the game…

We are not “feeling entitled”. Entitled would be being given something that you did not earn. And everyone had the opportunity to earn the water-walking mount, they just didn’t want to.

If you had read any of the other numerous threads on this subject, you would know that most of us do not want them to remove water-walking from the strider because we are aware that come 9.0 the current mount equipment will probably become 120 and below only usable in x zones, or removed completely, and they will introduce different types of mount equipment, removing the water-walking ability all together. (we already know they hate this mount ability)
Perhaps flying will become a piece of mount equipment locked behind some pathfinder achievement.

i play on a bunch of realms… and have never seen this excess of striders which we keep hearing about

Same here. And you really don’t need it in Nazmire if you know how to navigate it properly (especially if you’re alliance because you have that speed mount there)

[Xenovyah-area-52]

You dodged the point I made in my statement. It would just be another mount with no ability to be upgraded so… Where were you trying to go with that?

[Jedzeppelin-proudmoore]

Where are all of these complaints? Where are there SO MANY complaints that they thought that out of all the things in game that need work, this was the one that needed addressed?

I do not believe this change was brought about in response to player complaints.

I do believe it arose out of Blizzard’s desire to:

a) kill the striders. They have tried for a long time to do so, and finally found a strategy to do it where most players are duped into thinking it’s actually a good thing.

b) prepare for further gating of travel in future content. In the next expansion, mount equipment could easily be limited to older zones, and/or tied to rep grinds, new profession recipes, etc.

It was Blizzard’s agenda – not a player complaint-driven agenda.

[Parìyah-emerald-dream]

You dodged the point I made in my statement. It would just be another mount with no ability to be upgraded

Okay, and ? I didn’t dodge anything. The Sky Golem is “just another mount” with no ability to be upgraded. Why is that one okay to be left alone? I would be very happy if they had left the water strider alone and I couldn’t use any other equipment while using that mount. I’m not okay with having to buy something every time I want to switch to water walking when a couple of days ago I had that ability for free. I don’t care if it’s “only 40g” each time I want to switch. Up until yesterday it was 0g.

[Xenovyah-area-52]

The sky golems can gather herbs and fly… Give it equipment and it would be the only mount you need for farming.
Just put the water walking back on your mounts or play a dk… because with one equipment all of your mounts can waterwalk now.

[Parìyah-emerald-dream]

The sky golems can gather herbs and fly… Give it equipment and it would be the only mount you need for farming.
Just put the water walking back on your mounts or play a dk… because with one equipment all of your mounts can waterwalk now.

Wait, what? You can’t seriously be suggesting that I switch from playing a priest, which I have played since day one of WoW to a DK so I can walk on water? LOLOL And yes, ALL of my mounts can walk on water with a piece of equipment. That I didn’t need the other day. And when I need to switch to a different piece of equipment, I’ll have to go buy more of those pieces of equipment for my mount to again walk on water. And when the next equipment that comes out is a piece of flying equipment that you have to equip to make all of your mounts fly, let’s see how that goes over. You truly can’t be serious with this?

[Jops-zuljin]

Again, running faster in sports is essential to winning the game. Water walking isn’t winning wow, it’s merely convenient. Like nice gloves.

So we’re in agreement? Water walking equipment is inferior to mount speed equipment? And that the cost for speed is the loss of our water walking mount’s ability. Which seems ridiculous.
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Please, you or anyone, explain to me the benefit or logic of:

Why is it PERFECTLY OKAY to equip [Light-step hoofplates] (speed) AND quaff an [elixir of water walking] for both benefits at the same time.

But it is NOT OKAY to let water striders keep their ability, exempt from mount equipment. EXACTLY like sky golems?