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To become a Kyrian is to give up what makes you you. Your mortal form, your memories. You are drained out of what you are and filled with the indoctrination of the Kyrian. Its very cultish in its methodology.
Granted with what happened to Bluther, there is some justification. But if the Archon wasnt so oblivious to the obvious danger then what unfolded with Bluther and Devos wouldnt have happened.
Also I refuse to let go of the fact Blue Lydia gets yelled at for turning on the tutorial bot for the newcomer because “tHe DrOuGhT” but these people keep the interactive War Memorial turned on 24/7.
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I get that, but they also specifically mentioned how that’s necessary so they can be impartial toward the souls they’re responsible for, which…yeah. If I could have that with the real-world justice system I absolutely would.
Yes, and the problem is they’re so impartial that despite the fact the Arbiter is down and the Maw is quite visibly hoovering up all Souls thrown into the Sorting Hat Will It Blend Oribos, they still just keep yeeting everyone down to Super-Mega Hell+ because the Paragon, aka an infinity of day drinking and mind-wiping gets boring, would rather perpetuate the Anima Drought than dare to question her own status quo and would rather threaten banishment or worse for anyone who brings even the slightest hint that something is not kosher with the system.
Not only is the whole ‘you have to scour away everything that made you the kind of person worthy of becoming a Kyrian in the first place’ mentality extraordinarily terrifying, but the fact the Paragon quite literally holds on to maintaining the status quo until she nearly loses everything and then her response is “…Yeah, I guess, we’ll make the mind-wiping and de-person-ing an opt in process … but I’m not wrong!” rubs a lot of folks the wrong way.
Felt very much like the Pray Away The Gay mentality to me from the Paragon, and all but her most ardent followers played along out of fear of being cast out after surrendering nearly everything that made them an individual rather than actual belief in the system.
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They gave us the quest where we had to stomp out a former Highmountain Tauren’s happy memories for the greater good because it clashed with the Kyrian cult programming, directly before we met the Forsworn, and expected us to act like they were generic villains in need of killing and not actively in the right in their demands. I picked the Kyrian as my house for the expansion expecting their personal questline to address this. It didn’t. It made it worse. We got to watch the final moments of a man in Redridge protecting his family from the Scourge, and then we unceremoniously toss him into the Maw. We never see him again. We never save him. It goes just as unaddressed as the Forsworn.
Blizzard really and truly told Kyrian players to drink the kool-aid unironically and never give us a satisfying conclusion. There’s the barest of token efforts where Bluther and a few Forsworn are allowed back into the pearly gates near the end of the expansion’s lifecycle, how generous. But to say I was frustrated for sticking with the Kyrian for the entire expansion would be… oh, an extreme understatement.
(Oh yeah there’s also a race of owl people called Stewards who are made to serve and if they don’t serve they become neurotic and despondent so don’t try to make their lives as servants better! They talk in silly voices and make little hoot hoot sounds at you, don’t think any harder about the horrifying implications of a slave race.)
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Later on it turns out that the Forsworn grievances totally weren’t legitimate and in fact it was the Jailer who was motivating them.
Sometimes Blizzard comes close to nuance and when they catch it, they desperately smash it into a million pieces before anyone notices.
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Yeah, but they’re hot
You mean the Kyrians and not the Stewards, right?
Right?
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Don’t kink shame me Gentarn.
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Y’all, I’m trying to play a Blizzard game here. You’re not supposed to think about it, that only causes misery.
Oh, hey, I have a portrait again. Neat.
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Logging out and back in could help with updating anything else on your profile sometimes.
Yeah but it wouldn’t let me log out. I tried it on multiple devices, logging out just threw an error message. The forums are now the Hotel California.
It’s kind of like our own personal Maw.
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This is a philosophy that you should keep close throughout Shadowlands. Blizzard didn’t think about it and neither should you.
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I’m guessing anima is the new azerite? Is there gonna be another one of these on the Dragonwagon?
Anima is processed Soul Juice.
Effectively the power-source for all of reality.
So yes, Azerite+.
Pour one out for everybody who bought two $40 hardcover books of lore on the game that rewrites all its lore every two years.
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The first two Chronicles serve the noble purpose of propping up my washing machine.
The third got caught up in the Covid nonsense and is currently rotting in a warehouse somewhere.
They weren’t necessarily a bad idea, but marketing them as the ultimate lore source, rather than just admitting they were the Titanic version of history, made them a massive failure on Blizzard’s behalf.
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Ah, beans. I went back to Stormwind to do some errands, but I was 60 so it booted me out of timewalking and now Chromie won’t give me the time of day. Am I stuck in Dragon Quest now or can I finish what I was doing? I was only one zone in, man.
Shadowlands was honestly kind of mentally liberating for me because it was a real “they aren’t trying anymore, why am I getting so invested in this?” moment.
Which was, at the same time, a little sad because it meant really accepting that this just isn’t going to get better and everything else is just going to be kind of a happy moment in an otherwise slow decline.
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