Yes, but you got a strike against your account and a squelch…but you did at least stay in the game when you reconnected…but you did lose raid-leader if it was RNGd to you.
I’m telling you if you think a system where we could fairly regularly get 30+ people into an AV even at worse honor per hour was just randomly abandoned by 1000 concurrent players 1 night on a tuesday reset you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Allies would have an even bigger advantage in the pve race than they already do? You don’t suppose that is why that cave is placed there do you?
They don’t though. It’s already been proven via video that if the horde really wanted to they could win every single PVE race. Your distance to Vann is shorter then our distance to Drekk.
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You’re going with 1 video of a coordinated premade doing it as evidence that we can pull that off 100% of the time with that map?
Well alliance has won an AV today. That’s proof you guys can win more without changing the map.
That’s what you seem to expect from us to win.
Horde rarely recalled back then. They’d push Vann and we’d push Drek. Now, the Horde seemed to have figured out that defending is a legit strategy. Alliance will likely still lose… =\
Imagine if alliance figured this out…
I played the entirety of vanilla from beta through TBC. Try again.
Some loyal defenders are always there, yes, but the alliance never bombs our graveyard or anything, I swear there are plenty of games if you guys actually sent your best healers and stealth dps down to tower point and stacked that tower you would burn it easily, just have to wait 10-15 minutes for the horde to zug zug and you could probably stack it with 10 men at a time.
Snacks is not the only one who observed this happen, that is to say a second fix on Blizzard’s end. There was a short period after the initial announced fix (undermanned games starting) where players were semi able to still stack players with their toons who: wanted to be there/were level 60/had fast mounts. Then after one Tuesday it became impossible. This was a widely shared observation with everyone I spoke to in the 24/7 discord.
Even if it were true, the fact that AV premades were purposefully and maliciously abusing the automated report function on PuGers who accidentally queued in probably revoked any right to jank a way into a cross server premade in Blizzard’s eyes.
The whole point is that these changes were not made “because the horde cried about it” though.
Pollz being Pollz. He thinks he appears objective, but his clear horde bias shows in virtually every reply so his accusations of tribalism are hollow words.
The proof has been provided over and over of the very obvious horde advantages on this map. There are videos and color coded pictures with lines and graphs clearly showing the imbalances and yet there are still players in denial.
I’ve played horde for years and although I knew the map favored horde, I didn’t realize how much this version favored horde until playing alliance.
There are so many horde players who don’t understand cause and effect. Cause - imbalanced map. Effect - fewer alliance queuing and lower quality of don’t really care players. The map caused the latter effect and no matter how much horde deny this or try to shift the narrative, it still remains true.
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So did Alliance lose their fast mounts and gear? As for premades…naw, not that big deal. Do you know what organized AV battle with premades were? Tell everybody to zerg Drek. Done.
Not sure what’s wrong with your region, but OCE Alliance are constantly winning this weekend. It’s been roughly 50/50 all throughout today.
I have never once said the map is balanced, just that there are other things in play that contribute. But saying anything other than “map bad” is just too much i guess. /shrug.
You never said it’s imbalanced either. Pick a side and stop playing both sides of the fence so you appear objective when you’re not.
There is absolutely no excuse for one side starting closer to objectives then the other. There are no “contributing things” to justify that. I am positive if it were alliance getting the headstart you wouldn’t be so nonchalant.
“Picking a side” is an extremely tribalistic way to look at a situation that has middle ground and grey areas.
You do not deserve to not only reach SF first but to have the flag turned before anyone from the other team can interrupt the flag capture.
especially considering the importance of SF gy.
Stop with the tribalism nonsense. You’re far too horde biased to play that card.
It is not tribalistic to objectively look at a map and call it balanced or imbalanced. What are these “conditions” that make one side starting closer to objectives fair? No other bg map has such a clear head start on objectives.