AV is sad. Even in loss Alliance gets so much more honor

Less QQ more Pew Pew

You know why you’re getting virtually no honor? Because everybody is rushing north and south towers, there are no skirmishes and sometimes no towers being destroyed, which if you have a heavy loss ratio means less honor


It’s like the meta destroyed AV or something idk


I’m pretty sure same faction battlegrounds was never enabled for AV.

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Are you sure? It seems like there has never been a scenario where few enough people queue on both factions to verify that.

Looking at old blue posts when they first were testing it they said “Please note that same-faction play won’t be available for Alterac Valley, which was never hooked up for War Games and would be particularly awkward for the team that found themselves fighting alongside a great number of enemy NPCs.”

what about balinda? what about the npc you release? I cant tell you how many games i go into and i check for these mobs and they are there. It all adds up.

Bummer. The reasoning doesn’t make a lot of sense though. It’s already awkward being forced to play on alliance and being on the opposite side of the map with a silly face mask on. :sweat_smile:

Now if only Alliance could suffer 2+ hour queues to make it even.

Even when horde was winning AV, alliance was still getting honor 5x faster.

they still shoot you at AS trying to cap it
 e&w are far out of range for the same to happen at RH.

zoomers. it’s all, “gogogo!” instead of, “cap and defend til they burn!”

Maybe take time cap all 4 towers and not just 2 before killing Vann

New record, 121 Honor ins 60-70 bgs hahahahahaahahaha. Sucks to even compete. Leach away from now on.

Then start PvPing!! You should be getting 1100-1400 honor per AV. That is in a 9 min Win btw. If you aren’t getting 1100+ honor in a 9 min win you are doing AV wrong.

Here is a thread where I explain with pics

Also this from another thread.

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Knowing horde will lose most of the time all I do is go off alone and kill alliance for 42 honor a kill. I can often get as much or more honor than most people on alliance despite horde losing. I’d really prefer we defend our base, but it is nearly impossible to convince anyone to even try.

But its funny because I can get something low like 10 solo kills and that is 420 extra honor just for me.

I agree, but horde are not doing any of this. Some even said in chat , that they dont care. People like me who try do the objectives dont get help.

Well that is something you have to hope to change but either joining AV with a few guildy’s to back cap. Or start a movement at the beginning by saying it in chat. I tried with my thread to help stop the misinformation that Zergs are good. I hope more ppl see that thread and understand to stop Zerging.

Almost every AV I say 10-15 back cap give them no towers. Some are braindead and want to zerg but some join. If no one joins I still get honor farming Horde straglers and win even if Alliance loses.

I ask, I beg , I link timers. West tower had 1 pally I ask for help to back cap. no 1 comes no 1 cares. After a while its not fun to be trying hard with no result.

Been mentioned earlier in this thread but just to reiterate, you get an extra tower burn worth of honor for each tower of your factions you have up and not contested.

Get horde to actually backcap, free WCs, burn enemy towers. This is all more important than rushing to the end for 161 honor for a win.

Alliance side we call out the drek or kekers standing on noob hill. Those are the guys not contributing to more honor per game. Start calling them out on horde side.

Which is not possible. The honor gains available are the same for both factions. The difference in actual honor gained is entirely down to how they play.

you get an extra tower burn worth of honor for each tower of your factions you have up and not contested.

2/3. HK equivalency is, as of a bit ago today, 42 honor, up from 40.3. This means a held tower is 84 honor, compared to 126 for a killed tower. When it was 40.3 it was 81 vs. 121, so slightly above 2/3 but that was due to rounding.

Bonus Honor in AV:

Sending back a WC and having them make it: 1 HK equivalency

Holding a tower fully (not in-contest) at the end of game: 2 HK equivalency

Killing an enemy tower or captain (Galv/Belinda): 3 HK equivalency

Winning: 4 HK equivalency

Participation during AV Call to Arms Weekend: 4 HK equivalency

You can only solo cap two bunkers, SHB and DBN. IW requires you to kill or have someone aggro the archer directly accross. DBS requires you to kill or have someone aggro the mob just outside the front door because he will chase you up.

Alliance simply has a shorter path.