AV is officially dead

You do, It’s called being the majority faction. Blizz gets paid to pamper you and until the horde mentality shifts to wanting a better game for EVERYONE PvP will continue down the path of a dumpster fire.

How is that remotely ignorance? I was responding to someone who literally was looking back fondly on when alliance was trying to win, during which time THEY WERE WINNING.

Ultima Online was an absolutely amazing game and nothing will ever compare to it’s glory days.

And Eve? Meh…about as boring as it gets.

You realize you have a trinket to reposition right?

The people that are in AV now were not trying to win. Which is why premades were so prevalent on Alliance, so we could weed out those entitled jokers. Now it’s nothing but those entitled jokers and it will continue to be that way until you get off your high horse and admit that PvP population balance is the ACTUAL issue.

But I digress, what is YOUR solution?

Quick, send the blue signal the horde need more thunderfury!

Give both factions same racials and open up horde to alliance faction switches and pray to god it evens out some by the time TBC comes out.

You could allow people to select ONE of the two faction racials at a time and allow it to be changed in city only. Or something like this. Yeah it’s not no changes but who cares about that anymore. THIS type of thing could help possibly save TBC faction balance as well.
Blizzard did this to us though and don’t pretend its the consumers fault, it’s not.

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IMHO AV 1.7, fully populated and at full strength, so that the BG can be played as intended. Make completing the BG objectives be worth VASTLY more than they are now, and the end game bonus vastly less. Will that fix the HPH issues the alliance have? Not unless you force AV to artificially end in less than 10 minutes. Which defeats the entire original design of the BG.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT horde issues are being pandered to? Holy crap, where did you pull that from?

TBH I got sick of skeletons.

Why should anyone take anything you post seriously, when you genuinely believe such tripe?

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you mean the PVE? It’s a completely different game than it was 2+ years ago…tons more content and tons more coming.

It’s a decent game, perfect? No, of course not…but pretty good.

This still doesn’t solve the issue. It’s still not worth an Alliance rankers time and it’s still full of AFKS and leechers so the PvPers wont q either.

I agree with you that this has traditionally been the horde mentality for a long time. I’m just starting to notice a shift :slight_smile: Not everybody, just a lot more than in the past.

If your objective is to remove AV from the game (which, quite frankly, can be considered valid at this point), we’re on track for this to happen :slight_smile:

The backdoors that both sides had, and are getting fixed on both ends of the map? That you’ve been pointedly ignoring are getting fixed for both factions so that you can try to spin this as some sort of massive one sided change when it’s a balanced one?

I honestly couldn’t care…as I’ve stated multiple times PVP in this game is utter crap. That’s not what this game is good for IN MY OPINION. I like this game and enjoyed the time I’ve spent in classic but to be completely honest it’s getting insanely boring farming the same two 40 man raids. I just don’t believe there’s enough content for people who will play this game as much as I do. So now? I just raid log because it’s boring otherwise.

I would absolutely love if we had a balanced type classic game in which the pvp was fun and enjoyable. The PVP only gets worse from here out too with the coming gear.

Excuse? It is simply something you can no longer use as an argument when proclaiming how imbalanced the map is. It is quite enjoyable seeing alliance pretending that closing the back doors does not make the bridge nearly impenetrable when defended by a small handful.

That makes sense. Alliance pugs already get stomped by horde pugs. Let’s add horde premades to further their humiliation. Unless you’re suggesting these premades are always matched, in which case the map issues are still a problem since alliance premades even lost to pugs sometimes.

Blizzard ignored the pleas for change for too long. I doubt there is anything they can do to get alliance back into AV now.

All they need to do is remove the cave respawn unless you have no other graveyard, and suddenly alliance would get more than <1% wins while horde queue time would plummet back down. But Blizzard refused to do this incredibly obvious and easy change.

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Unfortunately alliance didn’t just stop at booting afkers and sponges, but had to take it to the extreme and boot <L60s and those without purple mounts. Had you lot acted responsibly with the RCR tool, it would still be useful today for BOTH sides.