AV is now going to die within the next few days

To be fair, that change helped alliance more than it hurt. Alliance didn’t use that space to get by going north, but horde certainly used it to sneak by when alliance held SHGY and were trying to cut off IWB choke to horde going north.

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I’ve lost more AVs this past week than i have in 6 months.

The changes made the alliance try harder, and less AFKs

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Except it’s actually not, the ramp leading south to SHGY cannot be avoided or bypassed.

most pvp maps are made to favor the alliance. including Alterac Valley. see when its more balanced, you alliance babies cry its unbalanced, when in reality youre just not as good as you think you are. you guys think its bad now, and want tbc early because of it, but tbc will be 5x worse for the alliance. you care bears will have to run to your pve servers to hide.

God damn, you guys make excuses for everything don’t you?

Let’s harken back to what you posted earlier:

Now you move that goalpost back once a clear bypass it pointed out? And then you play the “sToP tRoLlInG” card?

Good grief.

It literally bypasses that ramp. Oh that’s right, I forgot: you are of the opinion that the area at the top of the ramp across from the bunker is still “ramp”. :roll_eyes:

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Yes the top the ramp is literally still part of the ramp, that’s not an opinion, it’s literally how objects work.

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So you lost one game? Poor you.

This.

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Lost way more than one, Alliance are actually good when they try.

Maybe don’t afk in stealth like 80% of the alliance druids i find.

Lying is such a terrible character flaw…

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Imagine being unable to comprehend that an asymmetrical map has balance issues after, what, six months of a 95%+ win rate?
Actual braindead simpletons. I can’t even picture what it would be like going through life with such a lack of awareness.

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What’s the alternative? Accept that they’re not amazing at the game and winning because of their sheer genius? That’s a non-starter for some of these horde.

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When you put PVE BiS behind PVP rep it’s going to happen. The rep farmers don’t want to be there either friend.

Me Horde me win 99.9% AV because me am skill.
Wait why me no win AB and WSG 99.9%?

HA HA TBC worse for ally. Why me wait 9hour for play game? Blizzard help.

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so you just admitted that AB and WSG are unfairly balanced towards the Alliance. so AV makes up for it! Thanks
or wait is AB/WSG balanced to you? Dont let that bias show

I mean you’re trolling at this point.
I refuse to believe anyone can be this braindead.

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why you have to resort to insults? not even trolling. just sick of Alliance spamming the general forums cause they suck at pvp and think that av is unbalanced when if they just stopped playing like a bunch of monkeys after a banana theyd win again.

If you think AV is fair and AB/WSG is alliance favored you’re braindead.
There isn’t much of a discussion to be had outside of that.

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was AV fair in 2004/2005 and did you complain about it then? likely not. that’s the thing about Alliance. they only complain when they’re the ones constantly losing.

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Did it take 5 months and 3 days for the first person to kill Rag in vanilla?
Did it take 1 week for him to die in classic?

Things changes, strats change. What worked in the past no longer works.
People have gotten much much better.

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yes people have gotten better. the horde have had 10 years to get good at alterac valley because it used to be we were the ones losing 9 out of 10 of those. but to another point, if alliance are winning 99% of wsg/ab doesnt that make it also unbalanced? you could argue better players but that doesnt negate that a 99% win ratio is not something that should be looked at as balance. something is broken there too.