Auction house changes, yay or nah?

cool. so you actually have no idea what else he sells how much he makes and are making the wierdest agument ever. your one example (that has actually zero to do with the overall AH change going on really) is an incredibly rare 2.5m mount. nice.

D**m, I must be a sub-average casual.

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So not only are you trolling this thread, you troll people ingame too.

Wild to see you just say it out loud like this.

DBM doesn’t input anything.

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That sounds like a real life issue and not an issue in a video game. I have more gold than I’ll ever spend. I’ve been playing for free since they added tokens. I can buy anything I want in game.

Seriously, how much gold do you really need?

the guy i would assume gets a good laugh out of this person every time they “troll” him. i know i would.

Neither does TSM? It still requires hardware inputs…

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DBM certainly does, it automarks targets.

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If the idea is to cut down on the cancel/repost undercutters, then you could:

  • Have a budget for total item cancellations per hour.
  • Add a hour (or more) delay between cancelling an item and it showing up in your mailbox.
  • Add a penalty deposit for reposting recently cancelled items that begins increasing exponentially after 5 or so auctions.
  • Add a time between when an item is cancelled and when it can be reposted

do you not understand its the source of enjoyment some people have in the game is the market?

Perhaps a good option is to have a % fee for cancelling a scan, something like 20%? that way if someone accidentally messed up a auction they can cancel, take a bit of a hit and repost it while keeping the constant undercutting bots at bay? If they continue to cancel and repost they will lose a LARGE chunk of money in the process incentivizing them NOT to cancel.

Doesn’t make them right.

Griefing is a source of enjoyment for some people too.

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neither does ANYTHING someone might enjoy in this game then. whatever you enjoy i proclaim right now you are not right.

As someone who only posts once every day or two but on several servers, this really negatively impacts me. It now takes twice as long to post my pets, even on low pop servers.

As most my auctions are battle pets, there are over 500 sellable battle pets in game currently, I have to wait 2 seconds between posting every single pet.

I typically post my auctions on very low pop servers where I’m the only person posting battle pets and the AH normally has no lag or delay at all so I’m not part of the lag on full pop servers that triggered this to happen.

The throttle needs to be more dynamic, it should only be enabled during peak hours and on high population servers. When it’s enabled on low pop servers, even though I’m the only person posting most of these pets for people to buy I’m still being punished just the same as people sitting at the AH all day long.

The majority of this lag comes from people constantly doing ‘cancel scans’. Where they post all their auctions, then follow up with a cancel scan to see what all has been undercut, then cancel all those, collect them from the mail, then do a post scan again, repost, then start another cancel scan. This is a way people stay ‘first’ on very active markets on high pop servers. They often do this the entire time they’re at their computers and that constant scanning, canceling, and reposting is what causes a huge waste of resources.

TL;DR Please encourage people to play at off peak times or on small servers, and add some sort of delay or punishment for massive cancellations of auctions.

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As soon as I saw “Bilis” i knew it was you; and I read the entire post. Well said.

I’m not sure an hour is enough of a penalty for cancelling, but I think you’re on the right track here - I’m pretty sure the issue is the cancel/repost game, not people running scans and searching and bulk-posting.

I mean, you’re gonna have bulk-posting when you can only keep things up for a maximum of 48h; the likelihood that a lot of stuff runs out at the same time is pretty high.

It’s not intended to be a “real life issue,” it’s simply an obvious example of what you are stating that you do in WoW: leave money on the table.

And that’s fine. That’s your prerogative.

But just as I have the courtesy not to call that behavior “stupid,” have the courtesy not to call getting full value out of a sale “greed” and acting like people are terrible human beings for having more patience and capability to earn more profit from the sale of a virtual item than you have.

That doesn’t make them bad people. It’s rude and absurd for you to act like they are “greedy”—in other words, evil, bad, mean, negative, or whatever—by simply doing what is arguably the smart and logical action. The other players here are people, too. Please treat people with respect as such.

I say, put the auction back the way it was, but make cancelled auction take 60 min to hit your mailbox.

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if you’re equating greedy and evil based on me willing to settle on 85% of an items perceived value… I don’t know how to respond.

You do you.