Oh my bad, over 16 years*
You missed my entire point. If an item sits on the AH for a year and nobody buys it… is it really worth what you’re asking? I say no.
Tell that to the people who used to spam Reins of Poseidus in trade chat before it became dirt cheap lol
If someone eventually buys it at that price, then it was worth it.
One might say it’s not worth it, until it is.
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LIFO makes things worse not better. Saw this coming to be honest.
Maybe, but FIFO wouldn’t fix anything either; we’d just be back to undercutting by 1c at a time.
I rather choose the lesser evil and my vote goes for FIFO.
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I really disagree with the change but after reading the hotfix notes it’s clear that blizzards mind is made up on this and they won’t change it otherwise why would they use language that attacks people who use TSM.
The players who generate all of the AH traffic are using addon-driven automation to gain a competitive economic advantage over other players,
This language implies that TSM is the equivalent of botting software , which is why you see so many posts by people who don’t use TSM making posts about how they are glad these cheaters/botters got what is coming to them. TSM is NOT botting software, you have to perform an action just like every other add-on. You construct a set of rules, the rules are applied and then you must perform a click or scroll wheel action to post each auction. This is not botting, but blizzard is using inflammatory language to conflate botting with using a add-on.
They then say:
It should be essentially impossible to encounter the new limits for most players.
Blizzard is trying to create a US vs THEM narrative, even though regular users will hit the limit if they search for multiple items like say looking to buy multiple island expedition armor items to complete sets in your transmog tab.
This doesn’t even take into account economic theory , at no point in human history has constraining supply and eliminating competition resulted in lower prices for consumers. This will eliminate supply and raise prices for the average consumer.
The throttling is the wrong answer and will result in a worse auction house experience for all users, but I am more concerned about the inflammatory language that blizzard is trying to use to create a narrative that TSM users are botters. It confuses the issue and tries to create division among the player base.
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TSM users are botters, though. Many of us have been pointing this out for years. I’m just glad that Blizzard is finally doing something about it.
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TSM when set up right is basically a nuke vs. a knife, it’s as close to automation as one could get without actually running a bot, but they shouldn’t have said it was automated.
Literally no difference between lifo and the copper undercut.
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Well that’s up to you. Obviously someone who pays attention would see X deposit costs mounting up more than it’s worth selling at.
But honestly that’s FOR ME an item by item basis. If something drops, there is only 10 or 20 or 40 in the entire US servers then it kinda dictates how much it should be worth and at some point considering lowering the price to get it off your hands.
Transmog goblin here. WTB 7-day listings.
I post 2-3 times a week, so this would reduce my server load by at least half.
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Again, I’d argue that the issue isn’t FIFO vs. LIFO so much as it is someone can keep posting and reposting the same 10 items forever until it sells.
Break the cancel game, and now the person wanting to run the market has to decide how much inventory they want to carry to be able to run the market.
Further economically incentivize posting for longer periods of time and we’d probably see some return to sanity in the AH.
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You sell things on Nesingwary>? !.. I was a newbie goblin then but had a warrior there since I hated the full pop realms.
it is yes, its simply takes a while to find the buyers for them. but they consistently sell for wha tthey do for a reason. if they didn’t then yes the price could be lowered…
Took me over 2 years to move a papal fez, and I only sold it cause i dropped it to 850,000. Maybe I could have waited another year to get the 150,000 or so i lost out on but i’d rather have the gold
i have sold plenty of the same 150k+ item it just takes finding the right buyer and time - just like the real world and luxury items.
Man, if you’d sold that Papal Fez for 10g, you could have sold hundreds of thousands of them in the time it took to just sell that one!
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That depends on the server, how much you advertise also the item and so on. Papal Fez is one of the gold ticket items that RARELY sell that quickly unless you are on a full pop with more potential buyers.