so because you were ok making your money like that we all should be? what if u want the 5 mill mount? will “questing and doing emissaries” get me 5 mill in a few months based on blizzards own timeline??
Probably not, but the intention of the mount was never for everybody to have it. It was to be a gold sink to help get rid of excess gold in the system, specifically from people that play the AH a lot.
Why are you ignoring the posts about the issues with the current Malefic Core catch up mechanic?
The single biggest gold sink in the game IS the AH. It removes 5% of all gold that goes through it.
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I really do appreciate your efforts to give feedback to us and communicate. There are reasonable folks all over the forums doing the same towards you and communication always helps.
I’m confused over why this was implemented though. I’ve been getting lag approaching DCing from trhing to use the AH now and it wasnt like that last week. The mail was randomly like that. And me getting DCd with the one error that everyone has been reporting to you from not ling after BFA launched has started happening to me again too. From my perspective, there really wasnt as reason to do this, what was done this week, because it’s not only messed up MORE now, but you now also have some knowledgeable players who are trying to communicate with you and they’re very, very unhappy
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With all due respect, how is this a botting add on? It scans the auction house and then you the user have to click on post. It is the same as if you were to use blizzards AH EXCEPT it allows you to do multiple posts… please explain how this is botting? And when i say click to post i literally mean click to post… yet this is botting? please explain
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Doesn’t really work if you get your gold back, Marroc. Blizzard would also know this better than you, so I guess you should stop trying. 
If I want the 5 mil mount I’ll buy it, I have enough. I just don’t see the point in paying for an AH mount when I do all my AH stuff on an Alt…
And I’m sorry if playing the game isn’t good enough for you, ya know, going on adventures, doing quests, etc. Perhaps you should play one of the Tycoon games instead of WoW, since that seems to be what you would prefer.
Hey Kaivax,
I have two pieces of feedback which I hope you and the team will find useful.
Feedback Tidbit #1:
The first piece of feedback revolves around the number of API hits happening and understanding how players are using the system. As stated in one of your posts, the AH receives the majority of its performance strain from a small % of players - and let’s be honest almost all of them are TSM addon users. TSM revolves around creating product groups, but it’s my understanding the in-game API doesn’t allow searching of the form “/api/auctions/?item_id=100001||100002||100003”, but rather addons have to search for each item individually which causes one API hit per item.
Rather than throttle heavy AH users, I’d suggest the WoW devs work to better understand how most players/addons are making use of the AH and try to create an API that provides the same functionality but with less API calls needed. If they can merge the web based and in-game APIs (with separate permissions for each) that would also be a huge win.
Feedback Tidbit #2:
When I buy something in real life, store location and reputation often play just as big a role as the product price. Walmart might have the cheapest prices, but I may like the local grocery chain or mom-and-pop store around the corner better. I might like the clerks at the checkout line in store A, or the knowledgable experts at store B, or the fact that store C has those hard to find items I need. The point being, the way professions and the AH currently work in WoW, the profits go to the person willing to spend the most time undercutting at the AH because the whole system is by design impersonal and lacks differentiation between sellers.
I think the WoW team has HUGE potential to make seller differentiation and relationships a big part of the economy in WoW!!!
Implementation suggestions for the above “Big idea”:
- Using a variation of the WoD Garrison technology, allow players to setup instanced shops with their goods. (The tech for this already exists)
- Within a shop, players have access to the auction house UI, but the results are limited to items sold by the shop owner. (This should take VERY little effort to implement by devs as it just requires limiting the results by seller ID, no UI changes or other API changes needed)
- Purchases from within a shop have no listing fees or purchasing tariffs.
- All items listed for sale within a shop will also be listed in the global AH, but with a caveat (see below).
- All purchases done through the global AH have a 20% tariff added to the purchase price (to incentivize purchasing directly from a seller’s shop rather than the global market)
The hardest part from a software dev perspective would be implementing a way to visit a specific person’s shop without needing to be grouped with that person. To make this both interesting and functional I would suggest the following:
- Shop entrances can be located at various pre-set locations throughout Azeroth. Shop owners can only choose 1 location out of which to base their shop.
- For example multiple unused building doors in Stormwind could be turned into shop entrances (an instance portal), similarly unused buildings could be used or added into various places in the world outside the major cities.
- Players get to choose which of the locations throughout the world they want to use as their shop entrance by clicking a sign next to the portal and using some sort of “make this location my shop home” option.
- Potential buyers use the same sign/system to search for and select which sellers’ shop they want the portal to take them to. The game can remember the target shop for each portal location so that the portal will take them to the same place each time unless changed. (A new UI implementation for searching/selecting a Seller would be required)
Sellers can then advertise their shops in trade chat and try to build up a rapport with customers and suppliers. Despite being built on “instance” technology, I would suggest this would make the economic side of the game WAY more engaging and personal, and “engaging” and “personal” are areas where the WoW economy has a lot of room for improvement.
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“Probably not, but the intention of the mount was never for everybody to have it.” so blizzard introduces this mount, doesnt tell everyone that its never for anyone to have it, makes it for an insane amount of money that you could never get just playing the game? thats your theory?
I manage around 100 auctions and I haven’t noticed any difference yet.
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Umm yes it does?
Someone buys something for 100g. I get 95g. 5g is removed from the game forever.
and yet you, have more gold than you previously did, not less. That hasn’t removed any of YOUR gold from the game so you’re not super ahead of everyone and have millions to billions of gold.
You buy the AH mount, you lose 5 million gold and don’t get any of it back.
“And I’m sorry if playing the game isn’t good enough for you, ya know, going on adventures, doing quests, etc. Perhaps you should play one of the Tycoon games instead of WoW, since that seems to be what you would prefer.”
why do you care how i play the game? if all i care about is sitting infront of the AH all day why do you care?
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the average casual makes 1mil gold per month why is this stuff even a complaint/concern?
Because it messes with other peoples fun, as Blizzard stated in the blue post Les. It was effecting other players. Sorry you can’t do what you want if it effects someone else.
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Umm it does that every time I buy anything off the AH…
It also does that every time an auction doesn’t sell by not refunding the deposit cost.
A gold sink, by definition, is something deliberately added to the game to remove gold from the hands of players. All vendor items, AH cuts, etc. are all gold sinks.
Yes, and some of them you get a return on so you don’t really lose gold in the interaction. the AH mount and the other ones, you do… Wonder why there was so many in BFA that had huge cost?
but you get less of a return because 5% of would u would have gotten is removed… thefore its a gold sink… jesus…
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WTF are you on.
I have 1000g, you have 1000g. There is 2000g in this toy economy.
I buy something from you for 100g. You get 95g. I lose 100g. There is now 1995g in the economy. You end up with 1095g and I end up with 900g and the item.
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