Asked for T5, got T4. Now I have to waste acuity for a recraft

Even if OP didn’t reach out directly to specific people, anyone accepting the job still agreed to provide a service. The expectation of quality and completion still applies. In the real world, if someone posts a job offer, regardless of how broadly or loosely it’s posted, and a contractor accepts it, that contractor is still responsible for delivering what they agreed to.

While it’s true that the amount offered might attract a range of applicants, including some less skilled ones, the choice to accept the work means the provider should still deliver a certain level of quality. If they don’t deliver on what was agreed upon, it’s a breach of contract. In essence, OP’s failure to target specific individuals or offer high pay doesn’t mean they should expect subpar results if someone accepted the job under the terms provided.

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The concept that you are struggling with here is that the minimum level of quality was met. The OP placed an order with a minimum quality of rank 1 without further additions, and got rank 4.

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Except when you throw it into a system where you can’t ask for an AGREED upon level of quality, OP is subject to getting what the system can potentially deliver, which is anywhere between the ranks of 1-5.

Theres a system in place where they could have requested it, and they didn’t. All because they only wanted to pay a pitiful amount of gold and not put out anything substantial

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The fact that OP specified a “T5” level in the comment box directly shows that they did communicate their desired quality within the system. By stating they wanted a T5, OP set an expectation for anyone accepting the job to provide that level of quality. Even if the payment might seem low to some, agreeing to take on the job means the contractor is committing to delivering T5 work as specified.

Additionally, it’s wrong to assume that high payment guarantees quality, ignoring that transparency in the requested quality level is what establishes clear expectations. If someone accepts the job without intending to deliver T5 quality, they are knowingly accepting a task they aren’t prepared to fulfill, which is deceptive. Thus, the problem here isn’t OP’s offer but rather the accountability of those who accept a job without intending to meet the stated requirements.

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You can ask for something all you want, but when you KNOWINGLY throw it into a system where any result can happen, it isn’t deceptive, it’s getting exactly what you asked for when you signed up for a system like that

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Which is why are arguing the system needs to be improved

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Irrelevant. The work order, the actual contract as it were, was for r1 or better.

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or they literally just didn’t see the note

or people could use the system that already exists and works perfectly

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The person who did it said they saw the note and knowingly did it, taking the gold, knowing they couldn’t do what was requested.

Also, just because there are things that can circumvent a bad system, doesn’t negate the fact it’s still a bad system that many would like to see improved.

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the system isn’t bad. you’re using it wrong. a system already exists that does exactly what you want. they do not need to create a second system.

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i have had many t5 items crafted. i have never once paid for a t5 item and gotten a t4 or lower. it hasn’t happened.

this is a made-up problem born from nothing but stubbornness and laziness.

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In your opinion. If the system has a “Note to Crafter” box, I’d say that anyone using it to ask for T5 is doing it right.

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No, they don’t need to create a new system.

They simply need to add a place to set the minimum quality requested.

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there are tens of thousands of us who have never had this imaginary problem.

obviously not, since you’re here complaining about the results you got.

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It’s not a bad system. The specific intent of public orders is to be fast and convenient for the patron and to help improve professions for the crafter. The thing that the OP refuses to accept is that they did not use the system that gives them a higher minimum quality. If they’d used the systems available to them properly they’d have gotten what they want. It is their fault they wanted one thing and ordered differently.

They aren’t. You ordered an item and wanted better than you ordered, to the point of throwing a fit.

Nope, it does not align with the intended function.

And yet people still do it on my server every day. So, I would like to take that statement and say “prove it”.

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Already proven, time and again in the linked blue posts.

Then. Why. Do. Max. Level. Crafters. Have. Access. To. It?

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okay this guy is clearly trolling at this point. good thread everyone, see ya around!

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There’s literally no point where you cannot get anything out of filling orders, even just acuity. Stop trolling, get a grip on reality, and move on