Is there anything enforcing it? No? Well then it’s basically an “i wish” message and not any kind of instructions. So it will be ignored, and often griefed on purpose.
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You requested and they decided to not honor it.
Don’t like it? Use the guild or personal order option.
Your personal choices with how you opt to interact with public orders are your own.
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I’m 100% not trying to read the “worst version” of your post. Just the one that follows the most logical sense in regards to what you have said in reference to the overall discussion from where you started off at.
I can easily misunderstand something but I will say one thing…
No one is talking about an IRL handcrafted item. It is beyond absurd to mention that all of a sudden. We are talking about a game with games systems built into it; you don’t make a robe by rolling your hands next to your ears.
And the system we have now is more meaningfully complex for a multitude of reasons I honestly don’t care to go into because…
… I don’t have an agenda, but I know that when folks start talking about agendas that there’s no point in trying to continue a conversation, discussion, or explaining how something works.
Because … nothing I have said eluded towards any agenda. Yet somehow I now suddenly have one? Sincerely, I don’t care enough to care what you have to say in that case nor do I have an interest in explaining things further either.
But it’s not an awful system, just because you don’t understand how to use it properly doesn’t make it an awful system.
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Wendy’s wasn’t my example – I took issue with that same as everyone else. Taking issue with whether the external note is in a separate medium or in the same medium, but ultimately still external to the actual order is quibbling. Analogies are never perfect, or they wouldn’t be analogies.
You’ll notice that I haven’t said a word to anyone about disagreeing with the OP. She’s off… doing whatever and isn’t responding to any reasonable comments at this point. I am speaking specifically to you, and I am speaking specifically to you because you chose to take issue with me disagreeing with the OP… nicely for some reason.
I’m not sure what your deal is and based on our interchange so far I don’t think it’s going to be productive between us, so have fun I guess.
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Oh they do know, they just chose not to use it to save a few g’s.
And there it is.
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There is what? Anyone can grief your order just because they found the “instructions” pretentious or because they’re bored and it amuses them. There’s nothing stopping them from doing that with the public orders, which is why you don’t make a public order with silly “instructions” when you want something made at the quality you demand.
I can pick it up at poo skill levels just because I have the pattern, ignore whatever you wrote in the message, ruin it for you and get the pittance you posted and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it because you used the system that allows it of your own volition.
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That people are more inclined to grief on purpose. Isn’t that the tone of this thread? “Too bad?”.
I don’t, but others do. I guess I got lucky with all the other T5s I had made.
The tone of this thread has been “there’s a system in place already to prevent this” this entire time.
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The system you used cannot hold them in any way accountable for ignoring the thing you believe to be “instructions”. It just can’t, it doesn’t have that function. If they have the pattern they can make it at whatever garbage quality they’re able to, get the gold and that’s it.
This entire thread is people explaining this simple truth to you while you pretend that your message to the crafter means something at all. It doesn’t. If you don’t want to try your luck with randos who can and will ignore whatever you wrote use personals or guild orders. They hard lock the quality requirements and make it impossible for someone without the ability to deliver to even receive them.
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you got what you asked for using public orders. ask in chat, place order and select the quality type next time.
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That should’ve been obvious from the lack of a quality setting for public orders like there is in personal orders, so correct.
I still agree with you that they should just lift the setting to public orders and finally abandon the idea of “server identity for crafters.” A region-wide market place (or at least server-wide) is more efficient at setting the an acceptable price to both consumers and producers and has the “get it done quickly” timeliness of current public orders over spending time in trade-chat that could be done questing while waiting for an public order w/quality setting to be filled.
The AH is a buyer/seller market similar (in some ways but not all to the real-life stock market. Sellers post at what they think is a reasonable price, perhaps undercutting a small amount to try and find a buyer more quickly. Buyers only buy when they think the price is reasonable. Transactions only happen because: a) both seller and buyer have implicitly agreed on a fair price; or b) a trader has observed a mis-price against true value and buys the item to repost at a higher price (or worse buys fair-price items to post at a price-gouge markup, which is market manipulation and should be severely punished, but reliably detecting that seems hard for Blizzards bots).
Public orders should work the same way… post your desired craft (including quality) with a price offer (the bid) and crafters can choose to ignore your order or try and fill it because it’s meets their criteria for a fair price offer (the ask). Since it’s region-wide (or at least server-wide) fair price is quickly defined by “the market” and market orders are filled VERY quickly; win-win (except for crafters that were price-gouging, who should be driven from the market anyway).
I think I just said that the Game Director’s logic is only protecting price-gouging crafters, so hopefully that notion gets through to him and he changes his mind about quality setting on public orders and opening it region-wide.
Not needing to do that in the first place would be referencing your THREAD not the system.
id wager the people who cant even use basic systems are the insufferable ones.
what you needed to learn form this thread, is how to place a personal order. but from this thread we all learned you aren’t able to have a normal conversation to get someone to make you anything. NEVER GO FULL KAREN
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The arguments around public orders are remarkably similar to the arguments around groupfinder tools.
Making it function as Vortimer described ie. properly would take work and testing and Blizzard developed severe work & QA allergies so it’s better left alone until they restructure and stop being a trashcan company.
You know I was curious as I hadn’t been doing any Public Orders on my Blacksmith and I keep seeing people talk about how much they use the public orders for stuff they don’t care about ranking or as a crafter they use it to level up skills and so I wanted to check it out.
To be clear my BS doesn’t have all the recipes unlocked yet, still gathering Prof knowledge but I have probably 75-80% of them. I went down through the whole list of Public Orders and there was a big fat zero orders in there. I expected to see at least a couple of orders for Charged Claymore’s or something. Nope, nada, zilch, zero.
Anyone that tells me the system is working as intended is kidding themselves.
NO but blizzard never asked me what i think.