Arena PVP S1 changes announced

Stats are inflated in TBC. Not an equal comparison

You need something that I cannot say on the forums and trust me, it’s no vacation.

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Things that take a very long time to save up for an earn? Like a car? A house? Anything of seriously high value? Not only are the weapons a tedious and long process to obtain, you will have spent a fraction of the effort obtaining items much better than these on almost every class in PvE…and the weapons in question are much better in PvP than the PvP weapons.

The problem is that people of all ratings will have zero use for these weapons because they will get better weapons before they earn these weapons.

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It is a completely garbage change. So many people were looking forward to TBC and doing casual arenas and battlegrounds since they don’t have time for hours and hours of arena and consistent partners.

I have quite a few friends like that who are all planning on starting grad school and wanted to casually arena and BG.

This literally destroys that. It’s a trash change, that has no business in any iteration of wow (since it never was) and especially not in tbc.

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Nothing is out of my range.

I just don’t pay much attention to all of beta…

I mean you’re preaching about losing dps because your number might be 51 dps lower…all enhance will be the same, so your Parses will still be in line with other enhances.

According to your armory 2050 is.

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I must have missed the part of the change where you’re not allowed to enter arena’s unless you’re able to play for "hours and hours.’

Of course it is. It’s going from the BiS T2 weapon to the BiS T3 weapon as a mainhand. This was going from the BiS T4 offhand to the second best T4 offhand. It’s not mainhand, and it’s the same tier.

I don’t take retail pvp seriously

Retail Arena is the reason classes homogenization happened, to attempt to appeal to the E-sport demographic and attempted to allow every class to do every type of toolkit. This ruined all sense of class identity and WoW Arena was laughed out of E-sports for being far to RNG and clunky.

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The rating requirements are absolutely ridiculous. Common Blizzard this is TBC not retail the game isn’t even balanced properly there are classes that can’t even dream to get 2050.

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I’m not just talking about the DPS being lower, that’s only a small part of the issue. The other issue is losing options and, more importantly, gutting arena participation due to a terrible system.

I don’t parse.

No… because they’re entirely different expansions.

50 dps in classic is fairly significant
50 dps in BFA is basically nothing

Get it?

This is a min max mmo, you never had options.

You have the perception of options, but they don’t exist.

I just ran the sim and the % difference in damage between CTS and gressil is almost exactly 2%. Go tell Tetsu that gressil doesn’t matter and he should be happy with a BWL weapon.

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No. That’s not accurate at all. Going from one expansion to the next doesn’t make DPS differences irrelevant. Especially since Warriors were doing pretty similar DPS to what T4 BiS Enh will likely do.

In order to farm up that eating, yeah you have to.

I honestly can’t believe people are defending this change. There’s literally nothing positive about it

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He doesn’t want it for the dps, he wants it for the fact that it’s his bis weapon.

It looks good.

It’s a trophy to him.

You really think he noticed his 16 more dps? Lmfao

The primary problem in question is that Season 1 gear was meant to be gained slowly, but gained faster if you had higher rating. The reward for a higher rating was getting the gear earlier. This gear is ENTRY LEVEL gear for PvP.

Season 3 gear had ratings because the power level of Season 3 gear was much higher than Season 1 and 2 gear even in the season it was introduced in.

Right now Arena points are almost completely pointless outside of picking up gloves for most classes. And now it can’t even be used as something to counterbalance luck if you didn’t pick up your welfare checks in Karazhan.

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What do you even mean? We had options. Losing BS and Kara offhands and now Gladiator (unless you want to PvP that badly) is losing 5 different offhand options.

Except when the DPS is actually very close, we did have options. The DPS was roughly equivalent for axes/maces for non-Orcs during early testing for BS weapons, for example.