Are Void Elves really High Elves?

Can you imagine their cute void tentacled faces!? Those adorable pups.

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So when you die your race changes?

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Regardless of that – At the end of the day, Dracthyr in their visage forms still aren’t really classified as a human in terms of race. lol

If you’re risen as undead it does, by fantasy standards.

As stated earlier –

Race doesn’t really exist the way you all seem to be using it in real life either. Its a fairly new term honestly.

Species is the one that most people seem to mean when they start talking about all this.

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Exactly!!

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Blood Elves are High Elves while Void Elves are their own Race as distant from High Elves as Felblood Elves are.

Void Elves and Felblood Elves are evolutionary offshoots of High/Blood Elves(who are an evolutionary offshoot of the High Elves of Zin’Azshari) with both breaking off from the Blood Elf Faction of High Elves.

We have yet to see an evolutionary offshoot breaking off from the Silver Covenant Faction of High Elves though considering the differences between the High Elves of Azshara’s Empire and the High Elves of Quel’Thalas it is absolutely certain that any evolutionary offshoots from the Faction of High Elves of the Silver Covenant will call themselves High Elves creating the High Elf Allied-Race.

Man’ari, Broken, Lost Ones, Krokul, Wrathguard and Lightforged are evolutionary offshoots of the Race of beings that hold the Factions of the Eredar, Draenei and Sargerai. The fact that Draenei reject being considered Eredar shows that the Species has no actual name.

I don’t think they were specifically ALL from there. Also in that time frame I think we’d still call them the highborne rather than the High Elves (despite this being literally the same thing overall) as there is a difference since current contemporary Highborne do exist. (Some of which became Nightborne.)

This isn’t technically true and technically is true. Blood Elves and High Elves have no actual differences between them beyond a name change. So the Felblood and Void Elves you mentioned are the same distance of “change” from the High Elves of the Silver Covenant as they are from the Blood Elves.

I imagine if Blizzard adds the High Elves in Midnight they’ll probably not bother with another distinction… seems silly at that point.

Technically the Entire race was the Eredar. Draenei, Man’ari, Krokul (Broken in their language) and the Lightforged Draenei are all offshoots of Eredar… ish.

The Draenei don’t actually refuse to call themselves Eredar, but they make a distinction between Exiled Ones and The Corrupted. Draenei and Man’ari.

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So both Blood Elves and Void Elves are High Elves.

High Elves became Blood Elves really in name only. They aren’t distinct races, just as the Nightborne and Night Elves are technically the same people (Tyrande and Thalryssa are generational cohorts).

Since Elves’ physiology seems to be sensitive to environmental pressures, just as the Nightborne were modified by the arcane energies of the Nightwell, the Blood Elves took on a more fel hue when they started to draw on fel energies. The reason why the Nightborne look so drastically different is because they spent ten thousand years “soaking” under arcane influence an isolated bubble, whereas the Blood Elves had only started to tap into the fel. Who knows, given enough time, maybe they would have adopted deep red skin and black hair like the “demonic” Draenei.

From there, a subset of Blood Elves sought to dabble in void energies, and were banished for it, and these are the Void Elves. The void generally tends to have a much more visual influence, hence why the Void Elves look the way they do - void corruption works fast.

But at the end of the day, all three are really the same race, just separated by faction and “branding.” Silvermoon being a city common to all three would make perfect sense, as all three share the same culture.

This is a player made myth.

Blizzard has reinforced multiple times, they’re not changed physically by the Fel radiation they used to power Quel’thalas.

Only the felblood blood elves led by kael’thas were changed by the Fel.

The only notable physical aesthetic change was green eyes on blood elves which is and was a temporary effect. Restated most recently in a recent interview not long after TWW’s announcement.

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Technically If you’re a bloodelf, you did mutate, our eyes turned green, it’s a minor mutation but it happened due to fel magic, we are a fel cursed people seeking redemption, it’s the bloodelf narative.

The High elf cosmetic was added to both Bloodelves and Void elves to reprisent the High elves who returned home from outworld and rejoined the bloodelves, and the highelves in the alliance who joined the void elves.

But there is still a clear distinction between Blood elf, High elf and Void elf, despite all 3 techincally being the same biological race. Just like Kultiran’s Gilneans and Stormwinders are all humans but 3 different playable races.

Blood elves are not High elves, they are Blood elves.
High elves are not Blood elves, they are High elves.
And Void elves are not either of the other two, they are infact also their own thing, they are Void elves.
They all have different names, aesthetics and beliefs and generally minor different physical traits too that make it clear and easy to tell them appart.

As I’ve said before:
Vereesa is a High elf, she would punch you in the face if you called her a Blood Elf.
Lor’themar is a Blood Elf, he would punch you in the face if you called him a High Elf.

We all know the difference, let’s not pretend we don’t.

thats not true, there are Silverwing covenants everywhere and every expansion utilizes them to some extent

It is infact, not a player myth, but actual lore stated in game and by game dev’s. The green eyes comes from fel.
Though they are now starting to purify themselves thanks to the sunwell and Bloodelves are starteing to get golden eyes instead of green.

They were actually origionally meant to have been all more noatably fel cursed beyond it but they watered that down with retcons to make the Bloodelves less evil seeming. But the green eyes coming from fel energy was never retconed and remains lore accurate to this day, just the severity and willingness was retconed.

Yep. In a war where they keep dying. An army doesn’t mean a central culture.

And there’s canonically no central culture, they are mostly scattered. As per Blizz.

It’s why we see small groups in different places who don’t have the same beliefs or customs.

Thus, they’re whatever they want to be right now.

Why is that a problem?

Are Void Elves really High Elves?

Not really.
I mean, I’ve seen some fairly tall ones, but not that tall.
Unless you’re comparing them Dwarfs or Goblins, then I suppose they could be.

Blood Elves, per the devs, did not mutate.

According to Blizzard…

Katherine Bankson: “Blood Elves can have blue eyes now, it’s not just a customization available to players! Time has passed since the game’s debut, some Blood Elves have golden eyes now while others have returned to their original blue color.”

There is no difference between a High and Blood Elf. There are differences between Void and Felblood elves.

They are all thalassian high elves. They didn’t lose their past.

They are both High Elves. They just have different political views.

Blood Elves who were infused with the void. They are all High Elves.

Review above.

Also look at the Cdev interviews. (number 2 I believe.) They are the same race and there is no mutation.

Blood Elves that did mutate were the ones who became the Felblood.

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They technically are, but all the racials are flavored for a “void” issue you have.

For whatever reason Blizzard’s biggest hill to die on is making sure Alliance never get actual authentic High Elves like the type from Warcraft 2.

Puff puff pass?

Felblood were mutations.

Our eyes reflect ambient magic we are “consuming.”

That’s a game mechanic deary.

Blood Elves are indeed High Elves. What makes you say we are not the same exact people we were before we changed our name? (This is getting to be a tired argument)

Doubtful. The problem is when you are telling a Blood Elf they are a High Elf, you are ignoring why the name was changed. You are ignoring that 90% of their people died, 90%*, that’s why Blood Elves get mad. It’s like denying the holocaust or saying what happened to the Tutsi wasn’t a travesty. Yeah, those folks kind of get upset at that.

Yes those who keep the High Elf name are human lovers.

Or around. >.> Like its amazingly loose. We don’t even have to actually do anything, just being around the Fel Radiation is supposed to be enough and what effected the majority of Blood Elves (players) in Quel’thalas.

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