this is primetime game time and almost no ones playing or watching MMO games
What gives?
Using twitch is a mistake for MMO’s. They aren’t fun to watch and never will be. There is a reason machinima and highly edited content was so prevalent over gameplay content on youtube when wow was in it’s prime. The gameplay is not fun to watch.
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Watching games is not fun in general. Bleh
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So people watching someone play a game somehow relates to how many people are playing a game? In any case WoW may be dying but FF14 is doing just fine.
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Yep.
Cart on rails, highly controlled content. mixed with boring farming/grind.
Like for me…I still hit up and watch modding videos for skyrim and fallout 4. These can be fun.
as the mod reviewer spice things up. Like spawn in tons of enemies for humorous weapons displays. Usually with bullet time or some other mod that calls up the jet effect.
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I never understood why people would watch other people play WoW because when I watch opinion video that include footage of the person playing or instructional video to understand a fight I am unable to do, the camera is so high and the characters so small and the spell animations so bright I can’t tell what is going on anyway.
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OP, Im noticing a trend with you…
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…and here we have yet another Anon thread discussing the waning interest in WoW and MMOs using Twitch views as a proxy.
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Twitch views aren’t completely worthless. Only WoW’s delusional playerbase thinks they are.
And younger people aren’t trying to mess with MMOs. They are too grindy. Early game is almost always garbage and it takes too long getting ready for endgame. People are looking for quick games. Get in and get out.
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My girlfriend’s kids play a lot of FPS, sandbox games like roblox, maybe the older one plays some ARPG type stuff but nothing you’d need a guide for. MMOs are just very niche compared to, say, console games, which are as ubiquitous as TV. I don’t know that they’ll ever die out, evolve somehow perhaps. A lot of it is the learning curve, needing to do research outside the game, and frankly time management. When I was in college I tried to play EQ and since I could only get on late at night when I was done with evening classes, I couldn’t get groups and literally couldn’t play. So I quit until people got me into this after I graduated.
I’ve been on disability for about 10 years so I’ve had the time. Most of my friends do not. They have jobs, families, etc. My brother plays but other than a few minutes here and there it’s basically friday mornings when he’s off and maybe a couple hours on the weekend. I personally still find the game very appealing but since I’m getting married and will likely at least attempt to return to work, I’m not sure how much I’ll be playing in, say, a year. These games aren’t all that compatible with being busy, and young people tend to be busy.
Also I’ve noticed younger players would rather win a battle royale in 10 minutes than sit twice as long in a queue just waiting to do something that will take even longer. Patience and delaying gratification aren’t really popular among the younger set I find. YMMV, I’m not trying to say “all younger gamers are like this” I just kind of notice a trend.
Likewise we older gamers are slowly giving up, like me, I can’t raid anymore even if I wanted to because my neck injury flairs up if I sit at the computer longer than an hour or two. My reflexes are far worse than they were when I started as well. Will I really be playing this when I’m on social security? Maybe, I don’t know, what do I look like a fortune teller?
I think the “MMO bridge” was the popularity of pen and paper games in the 90’s. Since that’s all but died out in favor of fast paced console video games, there’s no longer any way for most new players to get here from where they’re at.
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I mean Lost Ark is right there with 120k viewers, more than Fortnite …thats an MMO
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Josh Strife Hayes makes some good points about MMO’s on his YT channel if you really want to understand the genre.
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Hello, I see you posted a thread about MMOs. To me, I think MMOs generally have lower viewer counts because watching MMOs is just boring. It’s hard to compare vs a fast paced, easy to understand shooter or MOBA. Which leads to my other bit of reasoning: a lot of times for some viewers, what is going on in an MMO stream almost requires some “setup” for the viewer to know what is going on. If I watch someone play Call of Duty, it’s a shooter, I already know what’s going on!
Thanks for the post and have a great day!
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Hello, I see you replied to the thread. Lost Ark is a ton of fun and has more in relation to a aRPG like PoE or Diablo too which makes it fun to watch! Plus it’s super flashy and watching monsters explode with that flash is pretty exciting!
Thanks for the post and have a wonderful day!
I don’t think Twitch can tell you who’s playing the game…
MMORPG is the greatest genre and will never die.
No. MMO development companies are a dying breed.
MMO’s need too much money, time and investment.
Not many have really even remotely gotten the key to success with MMO’s IMO.
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WoW is super old, and most of the people playing it are people who liked Warcraft 3 or did not play any Warcraft games but were active MMO players at the time and all their friends were leaving to go play WoW so they tried it out too. Now it’s not popular enough to really draw in players of other MMOs anymore, young people don’t care about WC3, etc.
They need to change the game more to appeal to Gen Z, and promote it by doing in-game concerts with Lil Nas X, who plays WoW (or has in the past, but since everyone quit idk if he’s still here) and would effectively add more black and LGBT representation to the game (and permanently so if you took things a step further and made him a character in the lore). Also find all of the other cool celebs who have ever admitted to playing WoW and pay them to shill for the game; I know Henry Cavill is still a gamer and was once a WoW raider.
dota is super old.
gta is super old
minecraft is super old
Giggity
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