No one forces you to run GDKP.
Normally I’d just ignore this phrase as meaningless, but I really want to hear what it is that demands a rejection of GDKP “in the spirit of the game”
No one forces you to run GDKP.
No, having gold never disappear from the economy creates inflation for the rest of us.
No one forces you to run GDKP.
Ignoring the fact GDKP has a side effect on everyone, even those that don’t engage with it.
Increased botting is an example.
GKDP never ends, it scales infinitely, you’ll always need more.
Go look at the AH on Hardcore and Era, it’s dead for normal players for that reason.
GDKP is rife on those servers, anyone playing normally just quit.
SoD will be next in line if nothing changes.
To my knowledge, they’re not ToS, but advertising for them outside of /trade chat is against ToS.
Nope. Although, as far as I am aware, the ToS (Terms of Service) was replaced years (decades?) ago, and hasn’t been a thing since.
The EULA End User License Agreement is the place to familiarize yourself with the legal information.
No its not . People jsut dont like em cause push people to buy gold cause they dont want to join a guild etc. but the issue is not in the gdkp but the gold buying.
Oh I love these!
Bzzt! Aww sorry, this is incorrect. Botting is related to RMT, which exists independently of GDKP. You have bots with or without GDKP, and some of the most disruptive bots are those doing outdoor resource farming.
Bzzt! Aww sorry, this is incomprehensible. Are you accusing GDKP of keeping people interested in raids indefinitely, because that’s not a bad thing. Are you accusing GDKP of getting bigger and bigger pots, because that’s the opposite of what happens as people gear out.
Bzzt! Aww sorry, Era servers have been out for 6 years, are hilariously underpopulated, everyone is geared out, and people finished stockpiling 1,000+ elixirs years ago. This is just what happens when content stops and money has nowhere to go and supply dramatically exceeds demand.
So you’d prefer dead servers? Interesting…
It’s up to Blizzard to decide.
Want dead servers with whales on 'em?
Or full servers where people don’t bot and don’t buy gold? (My preference, obviously.)
Can only choose one, because GDKPs will eventually kill the normal playerbase.
Can’t wait to see what SoD looks like in the future, without intervention.
I’m betting similar to Wrath and HC, a ghost town with massive prices.
Enjoy that infinite grind, or rather, taking gold from those bots that grinded for you, for your ever-increasing bids. I wonder what bidding on lvl 60 items is like, 10k+ gold I bet.
Enjoy.
You don’t have full servers without content, and you can’t avoid bots. Era servers have no content and there’s no need (or care) about botting because so much money has been building for 6 years that even complete casuals have tens of thousands of gold just laying around, collecting dust.
Exactly like Vanilla did while content was being actively released: fine and healthy.
Everything could be done for free.
Certain subset of players that has to drag money into everything.
Fresh Vanilla still would’ve been fine if not for rampant gold, people will always be playing that, it’s timeless.
They’re not playing the game in a way which I deem to be in the spirit of WoW, so I will report them.
I’m not the problem, they are.
Look through this person’s comments in this thread. He has 0 self awareness. His brain has been rotted.
Feel free to run those raids then.
A fresh server will be fine while content rolls out, but invariably content ends and things stagnate and all people can do is collect gear and then collect gold as there is nothing else to do.
You really do seem to be confusing natural inflation effects of stagnated servers with GDKPs. I get that a glance at Era seems ludicrous but that’s just what happens when numbers never stop rolling upwards.
You know this is a lie because you dont even get the copy/pasta ticket response within a day. Fat chance he saw he was banned, filed an appeal, and had it overturned that same day.
It’s not a lie.
Guy receives an email November 30, 2023, for a two week ban that ends December 14, 2023. Opens a ticket at 5:49 AM … UTC? Not sure the system zone on these forums. Ban overturned November 30, 2023, 12:42 pm. So he enjoyed an almost 7 hour ban I guess? Wow, you guys are really fighting the good fight. And then Blizzard shut the thread down when fools started saying GDKP was cheating.
Not a good look for the “GDKP is illegal” argument.
This is literally enshrined on the forums, unless you’re calling Blizzard liars and that they nerf unbanned this guy? Not really sure what you’re saying.
The only people who do not buy gold for GDKP, are the ones knowingly receiving RMT gold from the ones that did.
Maybe not all of these bad actors are sellers, maybe some just enjoy hoarding gold.
All of them alike however, will say anything to protect their scheme.
No, but you can’t GDKP without buying gold and that is against the TOS. And the gold you get from running a GDKP is RMT’d at its source, so even if you don’t buy gold to buy in a GDKP, you receiving a cut of other peoples RMT’d gold is bannable.
The odds of you getting into a GDKP with 100% clean gold is effectively 0%, so you are risking a ban and a gold wipe with every run.
I especially like the one about shutting down the AH because you are likely buying items from bots.
Lies, the majority of players do GDKPs without buying gold.
again another falsehood.
The rest of your post just kinda falls apart after that.
Based on personal game experience gold buying, botting, fly hacking and gdkps are all okay!
honestly i don’t know i just know that was an argument i’ve seen made at least twice (maybe even by the same person though who remembers names on here unless you’re particularly egregious )
In thinking about it people say “ohhh GDKPs encourage RMT” are mistaken GDKPs are just a part of the enconomy, but as long as there is an economy there will be people who want to just buy gold GDKPs are just a more visible part of the economy where large amounts of gold are redistributed very publicly.
No but they should be because they are a major source of customers for gold buyers. RMT should be tackled in general but there’s no denying the hundreds of thousands of gold that changes hands every week from GDKPs and tons of it is botted and then bought to be used to bid in these raids. Kill GDKPs and suddenly those sellers would have a whole lot less customers. GDKPs create hyper inflation because people have so much money all of a sudden.
It’s like a cluster effect. If 1 person out of 20 buys gold and then turns upto this and gives tons of gold to everyone else for loot it has the same effect on the server as 20 people going out and buying gold. Those people have plausible deniability as to the source of the gold they received so they’re in no danger of ever getting banned. But make no mistake these raid groups form for max gold and they will absolutely take the biggest gold buying whales on the planet if it means their time is rewarded better.