I didn’t recommend anything. You did. Expect criticism when you recommend something (like you’re doing to others), especially when it’s a questionable recommendation (like the cooler you recommended). I agree with Sal that OP is buying a hard-to-cool CPU and would benefit from a better cooler than the one you suggested.
What I also disagreed with was how you described the essence of your post. Providing more options is better as long as we’re all being honest about pros, cons, and what we’ve already said. I’ll just leave at that.
I think it would be one thing if we we all beating him over the head about getting an aftermarket cooler on say, an i3-10100 or Ryzen 3-3100 (still valid reasons to do so, but less critical than the 5800x).
But an 8 or 12 core flagship deserves at least some further consideration than the good old “better than intel stock cooler” 212.
Also, TDP isn’t that useful of a metric for helping to decide coolers.
If TDP were to be used to determine what coolers we use, everyone would be straddling thermal throttling.
It’s for OEMs to put the minimum they can in their systems so they can say they haven’t technically cheated anyone when their i9 only boosts to 4ghz
From tech Jesus specifically related to AMD:
Our opinion is this: the AMD TDP formula takes three individually useful numbers and blends them all together into one un-useful number that can’t be reverse engineered back into its original parts. It’s like summarizing someone’s personality by adding their birth date and the number of letters in their last name together. AMD did provide tCase, tAmbient, and HSF θca to us upon request, but those aren’t the numbers that get printed on the box.
None of the companies we contacted had a high opinion of TDP as a usable number, ranging from a polite recommendation to rely on test data from reviewers instead, to absolute discontent over what the companies see as a misleading measurement that causes confusion in buyers.
imma prolly try the noctua though i mean i like how it looks and i personally dont see many air cooled heatsinks anymore i see a ton of AIO’s i guess they are called and RBG bs. i mean all i care about is it cooling good and a reliable company/product.
i checked the amazon stock though and yea seems like they are just guessing cause it was feb 11 yesterday now today its the 14th XD.
In your typical mid-tower case with good airflow, a quality air tower cooler like the NH-D15, DRP4, Assassin III, etc., all will perform really close to your typical 240/280mm AIO. It isn’t really until 360+ AIOs and custom open loop that water becomes noticeably better than these types of coolers.
AIOs tend to look prettier because they take up less space inside the chassis, and also are more conducive of RGB.
On the flipside, they’re a little noisier and usually result in either worse motherboard VRM/GPU thermals if oriented as intake, or worse CPU temperatures if oriented as exhaust.
Air tower coolers don’t really suffer from this and also help provide some VRM cooling, even if they aren’t downdraft coolers, in that the other half of their cooling system doesn’t introduce airflow resistance/heat (radiator).
But they need cases with good airflow to work, so there’s definitely a case to be made for AIOs in very small cases, such as mini-ITX configurations. Blower-style GPUs work better in this implementation as well.
whelp… RIP noctua dreams. idk if they just aren’t updating stock or what but i tried to purchase it and each option keeps saying they can’t ship to me even the one in the US but i can’t think of why besides it being out of stock and they just don’t update their online postings like i know a lot of companies do.
this is why i call to make sure its in stock before picking it up at the store/making a purchase. guess gotta look at other options for now
yes but in Hawaii. for some… odd reason a LOT of companies in the main US ( 48 states ) or what we call “main land” won’t ship to us. idk why but that is how it is. could be something as simple as a gaming chair.
i ended up purchasing one on ebay that was a last resort. about same price as the ones on newegg so not too bad. just gotta wait and see if the seller will ship it here though.
my guess is that they are out of stock though and didn’t bother to update their listings. or doing what some companies will do and advertise that its in stock but it isn’t and say it’s “in stock” when really its back ordered.
i seen the be quiet one but i totally forgot about it. keeps popping up in my advertisements too.
spam of course that will always be a thing here. thats like a staple for us. funny thing is i think 1-3 years ago people started stealing the spam as well as corned beef at the supermarket so they had to lock um in cages and at some locked it up in tiny clear boxes XD. it was so bad.
coors light idk i dont really drink but i see a lot of people wanting to drink the i guess i’d call it hipster stuff like IPA’s and seltzers and all that bs. all the alcoholics i know drink either hards only or stuff like heineken.
get the Noctua U12A instead, same price last I checked but smaller, silent, and lacks the major design flaw crazyeyes found when reviewing the cooler for TPU
After installing the cooler and noticing some truly terrible performance numbers, I began looking into the cause. To check things out, I rotated the cooler 90°, which resulted in much better performance and meant something was off. After multiple mounts and checking clearances, I found that the heat pipes on the Corsair A500 were touching the caps on my motherboard. Since I strive to deliver full reviews with all the details, I took a big file and shaved the heat pipes down for enough clearance for the cooler to perform the same in both orientations. As such, I have included both sets of results to document the issue. Even so, this shows some level of incompatibility based on the motherboard a user may have. A solid base rather than a heat pipe direct-touch-style base would have avoided this issue.
I think for the price it’s still not bad. The fans alone are worth the money almost.
I read about the space issues - it might be a problem in some cases but not all. Definitely seems like Corsair is going back to the drawing board with this, hence the deep discount.
100% agree, you are going to spend $450-550 on a CPU and cool it with an overpriced $40 HSF that cools like a $30 one. Ive owned the CM 212 hyper+ and 212 evo. There were fine coolers for the i5-2500k but not a CPU that packs in twice the cores on a smaller die, more cache, and adds in multi-thread just to heat up the cores even more?
FYI, the 212 evo went to the direct touch heat pipes rather than the solid base (A500 also uses direct touch). CM stated the reason was direct touch was better even though every single high end heat sink uses a platform even to this day. So all the fan boys bough it hook line and sinker not realizing the evo came with a fan that was 400rpm faster than the hyper. Years later CM finally came out and stated the reason for the direct touch heat pipes was a cost cutting measure
They had market channel issues getting their stuff into North America. They are a small outfit in Taiwan.I’ve owned both the H5 & H7 and for their price at the time, both were very good coolers. The old H7 with it’s three heat pipes could get over whelmed easily though with six+ core CPUs.
even though every single high end heat sink uses a platform even to this day. So all the fan boys bough it hook line and sinker not realizing the evo came with a fan that was 400rpm faster than the hyper. Years later CM finally came out and stated the reason for the direct touch heat pipes was a cost cutting measure