Trying to get this pc going soon im down 3 major parts only thing holding me back is money and cpu heatsink out of stock except frim scalpers asking 100 over msrp.
Amazon says it will be in stock soon but been watching it daily and it just gets pushed back 1 day everyday.
Cpu heatsink will be a noctua nh ds 15 chromax. And case i think comes with only 3 fans in the front but thats all i got.
Ssd will be a firecuda 2tb m2 i can get a 1tb but i want that extra buffer cauwe 1tb i know will go fast over time.
Thoughts? I coule always add the extra ssd later thats not a huge concern.
Not sure what your case is but if it comes with three fan set up in the front and nothing else I would keep it that way. You can add a noctua s12 down the road as a rear exhaust.
I have a similar set up as Sals, two 140 up front, one 140 top and 120 rear. I keep the ceiling front open so my HSF can pull in cool air from there. All fans and coolers are noctua.
I decided to just sit on it for now and buy the fans. would make no sense to build due to shipping gonna take me time by the time i get all my major parts imma be able to afford the fans.
the fans that come in the front usually exhausting right? or are they typically placed for intake? the top fans i plan to use as exhaust cause of “heat rising” but not sure what to do with the backs. do i just want everything exhausting and no intakes?
The front fan should be intake. That’s a general rule though not a must.
If you intend to use noctua NH-D15, it is very likely that it’ll pretty much block most of the top-back area of the case. More air resistant = air doesn’t want to go that way. And you might not be able to use the second noctua fan because of ram height also. So, you don’t want to give air the easy way out through the front away from the noctua.
What I did with my pc is moving one the top fan to the front instead. I only use one noctua fan because of ram height. My DVD bay is empty so blowing air into the noctua. I did tried some other setup but this setup give me the best cpu temperature.
front fans are typically intake, think of your case as a baseball stadium in between a double header. You want a clear entry way for the second game fans coming in so they don’t bump into each other and the first game fans. You also want a clear exit for the first game fans to leave the stadium and make room. Most people go for a “front (intake) to back (exhaust)” air flow set up for their case.
…I think you are confusing air molecules with air flow although still not following your case air flow “theory”. Saying a heatsink creates air molecule resistance is like saying the proximity of Canada to Mexico prevented colonials from sailing to Virginia.
Yep. It’s fluid mechanics theory. Specifically bernoulli’s principles. At least I think it is. It’s been a while but I’m pretty sure simple piping design apply here at least to some degree.
Flow disruption = flow resistant = pressure drop. Well technically even a straight pipe would have some resistant but minmal. That’s why we put fan in to keep pressure.
I’m not exactly sure how that’s relate to fluid behaviors.
Obviously the heatsink would create resistance as to air flow. My example was more about the initial description as it sounded liked you said the heatsink would prevent any air from going through, hence my example of the tiny size of air molecules.
Oh I meant like it’ll take the whole upper back case space area. As in pretty much cover from motherboard to the cover. Kinda like the door is blocked by a shelf or something. But that doesn’t mean you couldn’t squeeze through.
yes, the rear exhaust and ceiling rear fans in your typical front to back set up. The larger heatsink gives the user a larger area for heat to dissipate.
Not sure how you’re interpreting that. But I’m using two exhaust fan.
If you want the run down of the fan I’m using. It’ll be kinda long though and I kinda doubt anyone is interested in it. So, I kinda omitted it. There’s 3 fan at the front. Two is the 120 mm fan came with the case. One bottom one the middle. One I kinda jury rigged the top front 120 mm fan into the DVD drive bay. The two exhaust fans are the back fan and the top back fan. Both are next to the noctua so they’re kinda maximizing the airflow through it. I also got a 3080. It’s kinda big so it’s acting like a screen blocking the bottom half air. But the blow through on the 3080 seem to be creating the air flow from the bottom half. Which then get push into the noctua with fan in the DVD drive bay. At first I did kinda worry about pushing air from the GPU into it. But it seem to work out good compare to other setup I tried. I do want to try adding a fan instead of moving the top front out. But that’ll require buying one. And I kinda doubt it’ll work much better since it’ll just pull out the air from the DVD drive fan.
I agree exhaust fan is very important. It removes heat from your case. I changed my back exhaust fan to Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000. Running at 1800rpm. All my component temperatures reduced on gaming load.
Get yourself a good fan and a good case. My old case got poor sound dampening. 1600rpm onwards of the same fan becomes noisy.
I’ve had it, and all I can say is you don’t need it. Buy a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ and go about your business. You are paying a premium price on an enthusiast level cooler for no reason. Unless it’s regularly 85F in your room before you turn the PC on, or you plan on overclocking the CPU/GPU (you aren’t), you don’t need this stuff.
You don’t need extra case fans, but they don’t hurt. I build on average 4 computers a month, and I can tell you the people in this thread are overcomplicating everything. You will never need more than 3 case fans outside of the two scenarios I described above.
No, absolutely not, you want cool air entering the case and hot air exiting it. Think of it as drawing an arrow from one end of the case to the other, make all the fans push in the same direction. An exhaust fan on top will deal with any rising heat that escapes the flow of the others.
If you really have a fan shortage, just move one of the front fans to the exhaust.
yea i was reading about the 2nd fan and ram height issue and even in pc part picker website it states it too. i watched a video cause they have 2 different chromax versions of the noctua NH-DS15. one has an S at the end of the “15” which is supposed to be i guess the “better” one since it came after it i believe but this guy ran temp tests with both and showed that the S version was slightly hotter assuming it was because of the 2nd fan.
price wise idk if the S version is cheaper i assume it is cause it looks to be the exact same thing just 1 less fan. But i see a lot of people propping the fan higher on the fins to clear the ram height so imma try that first and if not then imma take it off. something about the fan not utilizing the entire fins so it’s just cooling other areas/blowing air else where which idk if beneficial or what i assume it is to an extent.
I am planning to run maybe 3 fans at top for exhaust and 2-3 in the back as exhaust as well. front for intake. what do you think?
doesn’t exhaust raise HP i mean not always drastically but a few? you work on cars btw? i was saving up for a chevy nova tryna build it into a drag car but legal one over the years. sadly money went into the PC them muscle cars here are expensive af though and for terrible condition. shipping costs + harder to find in state makes the market hell. plus i think we got a handful of shops only that can do quality work on um for a hefty price just to fully restore. tryna learn on my own though especially since i need a new car after mine got totaled few years ago. i race people rn in a mini van XD they are surprised i can keep up
i live in Hawaii on Oahu so yea it is pretty much around 85F year round. winter time is the only time besides the evening where temps will dip to 70’s and rarely higher 60s. Summer time also is just straight hell we don’t run AC in the house. humidity as well just feels hotter then it is if it were dry heat.
i run the PC maybe 8-16 hours a day if im off then 24/7 pretty much. use it to watch tv and leave it on for background noise when im asleep. the area where i live gets hot too its not like some areas say down the road maybe a 2 minute drive it will be much cooler and rain more. here its hotter and only really see rain if its storming.
It’s been a while but I’m pretty sure simple piping design apply here at least to some degree.
them muscle cars here are expensive af though and for terrible condition. shipping costs + harder to find in state makes the market hell. plus i think we got a handful of shops only that can do quality work on um for a hefty price just to fully restore. tryna learn on my own though especially since i need a new car after mine got totaled few years ago. i race people rn in a mini van XD they are surprised i can keep up