The vault is just shockingly bad for the gameplay loop in general. Grinding all of these events with no possibility of exciting drops, and the only time you can ever get an upgrade is the weekly reset, is a horrible loot experience in totality.
The loot and progression loop is completely separated from the gameplay loop, nothing comes from the things you killed to get it.
It would be like training a dog by getting it to sit then giving it a treat next Wednesday, that may be a bone or may be a lump of coal.
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Iād say thatās delves being far too easy. Thereās only so much you can do in a game like WoW if youāre designing for it to be accomplished by a single player with no timer. Not to mention the healer Brann-dicapā¦
Yeah people brought this up a while ago.
The entire mythic track system is borked because they felt like they needed to screw with it.
This season SUCKS.
Whaaaaa? You mean you dont like doing your weekly chores for your scratcher card?
Hence, this
Gotta force those numbers!
Like maybe the unique mogs they drop you absolute troglodyte? Does it hurt to be that stupid?
When they first announced delves I didnāt think the ilvl from it would be as high as it was both from bountifuls and vault. They made it seem like it would be further behind.
Maybe they bumped it up later because they wanted their new feature to be more popular. Regardless, they could just bump up M+ a bit to make it actually seem worth the time in comparison. It seems silly that only +10s are significantly more rewarding.
Alternatively they could copy the delve map feature and add a M+ map for occasional larger rewards.
Well the irony is, its actually going to have the opposite effect. People are going to get burnt out REALLY bad if their only avenue of crests is to do 9+ same thing with the weekly vault. You have to do a 10+ to get mythic track gear.
That is beyond stupid. People are going to get hero geared really fast, because we are already pushing into 7s now in teh first week, due to delves letting you by pass all the gearing of doing 1-6
This season is a complete poop show.
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Delve maps also seem at this point to only come from time gated content, so not really a comparable option for m+.
Truth be told its not the level of the reward thats the problem, its how much of it you get for how little work it is.
you can EASY get 6 keys a week, and even 8 if you are pumping numbers in the echo memories.
So thatās 8 pieces champ gear each week you are guaranteed to get.
Om top of that you get a hero piece from the map, and you unlock a hero slot in the vault.
It is WAY easier to run T8 delves then ti is to run 1-6 mythic.
I havenāt tried to farm them but I read some people got 6+ in a single week. I think you can farm maps in non-bountiful delves since they also drop from random Zek spawns?
Some people were speeding through normal t8 delves to try to find zek spawns according to a random reddit thread.
I think you are limited to 1 map a week if not lol thatās bonkers.
But yes you can easy get 6 a week, if you are cooking in teh echos you can probably get 8 key as week.
At this point nobody in my guild has seen them from anywhere except bountiful blue chests (So not the key ones). Zekvir dropping them has seemed to hearsay, and even the drop rate looks to be exceedingly low outside of the one documented source.
As for that source, Iād guess the average is roughly 1/10 but thereās certainly outliers after a week as youāve mentioned.
I did two on an alt this week. I think itās just RNG with a very low drop chance.
Yea Iāve only seen I think 2 random zek spawns ever and didnāt get a map from one so I donāt know from personal experience. Itās also possible it was stealth nerfed at some point if it was good briefly.
Yeah, looks like about 1/10 from the blue boxes in bountiful delves. So 2 every 5 days on average.
Iām still on zero zekvir spawns after doing every bountiful delve.
Christ are you serious? thats wild.
Raiders said the same thing about m+ when it was released
I for one am glad we have 3 end game pillars to choose from.
5 keys a week, +2 from echoes is 7. That might be rounding down and sometimes you get an 8th counting the 2 echoes from the last 2.
If you can get 10 echos, you can easy get 150 crests with a 5 man group for turning in the 5 echos
The cap is 220 fragments from a single 5 echo handin.