Can’t speak for the class in PvP but yeah. Many players feel as you do.
We need to get back that playstyle of a mobile ranger that does not have a main focus on pets.
Should there be no option to focus on pets at all? Depends on who you ask ofc.
But the old ranged SV from pre-Legion did a good job of filling this role.
Many want it back. As evident by many topics created in the past as well as more recently. One can only hope that the devs hear us…
I’m no veteran but as much as I’d love to enjoy Hunters, it just is got awful boring to play. I don’t need 1000 buffs or what not to keep up that make it interesting… I just think the rotation is awful. The only thing that it beats is the DH havoc rotation.
The animations too for some shots is god awful… (who designed them and thought it looked good, lol).
Legion Hunter I just hated, BFA was a notch better FOR ME but still doesn’t say much.
The one that stands out the most for me is Cobra Shot.
Who thought that neon-green goo behaving like a popped balloon was thematically accurate with the use of a gun or a bow/xbow?
Some things, yeah.
I did not like that they took away the choice between Barbed Shot(pr. DF) and Dire Beast though for BM.
And talent design for the spec could see many improvements being made. Both in terms of design as well as numbers.
Nope, and I’ve been playing BM hunter since I started … not every class needs flash! especially BM where our pets do the bulk of the dps!
The other 2 specs are boring but survival is a fun to me anyways… if you wanna see a really boring spec play havoc…
I just started playing a hunter - level 40 atm. Found this thread doing a search, hoping there was more fun as I level up, but it seems this is it. It’s so boring. Pet does everything on its own. Two button spam. I dunno if I can stomach it to max level…
Yes!
I can only give opinions about Survival and Marks. I see most Hunters as BM’s, or perhaps only BM is noticeable in world.
The only satisfying part of Marks is being able to 1 shot something if everything is set up. In a raid it is like meh rotation.
Survival, well… That used to be my main spec and I loved it. Then they changed to melee and I didn’t play a Hunter to be melee. Who does that?
Personally I think the pet/melee should be the DH’s 3rd spec, not Hunter.
Yeah, that’s why I’m switching my main to this pally here.
I thought I found my dream class when I realized I can be ranged while having free mobility to move around like melee.
Boy was I wrong- Hunter, especially BM feels terrible. Almost fell asleep on my keyboard.
Im a veteran player, hunter main since vanilla. End of vanilla into BC was the best times. If you have fun soling what a lot of classes can’t. Demons, kiting sh*t to cities, and having a companion to do with the whole time.
I play all three specs mainly bm/surv. I used to love surv going into BC with duel hatchets in melee stacking agility. Or sitting back stacking crit and aimed shotting rag to death while feign death drinking.
All three specs have their ups and downs right now, I use all three in both pve/pvp. Beast of a class. I like to play outside the box with stats too. Mastery build as BM and surv right now is redic.
Whichever you spec you decide to play just think of your role and look how fun it could be, I solo outdoor raid bosses, merc most 1v1 in Wpvp and if played right any spec I can pretty much place top 5 in raids.
I just like using sniper shot at its absolute MAXIMUM distance and watching melee players have onscreen meltdowns over how I’m allowed to hit them that far off.
Then follow it up with bursting shot lol, and have the explosive at your feet. BEAST CLASS
ALOT of people having difficulties with the new quest/zones. I kinda did as SURV and yeah, BM is dope for quest/lore/character progression.
Survival is fun, however he cannot take a hit…
i find Bm a bore mm and sv are super fun for me thats me though
It is under powered poorly represented in all specs, this actually started a very long time ago.
Back in the day properly played you could beat a rogue warrior mage but you had to outplay them.
“Example” Pally fights 8 people because he is going to use his full heal, I had a silence if timed right wold kill the heal which it should.
You just fought 8 people time to die, you should have got away sooner and you could have bubbled.
Now Pally fights 8 people heals and pulls a few Templar verdicts for 70k …
“Example” Druid bear had to come out of bear form to heal silence right before that, down he went.
Now Druid Bear has 900k hit-points, spams a dot and heals and does melee in bear form. LAUGHABLE TOTALLY LAUGHABLE…
“Example” warrior had gap close and ham string was hard to kill but you could do it the finisher was normally a disorient because he was on you followed by another shot.
You had to know some things about the class you were up against, we had silences, we had snare, we were a kiting class.
We provided damage in raids, and were to be desired for some utility…
Then came the Nerf’s, somehow someone decided get the Nerf bat…
Nerf after Nerf … too the point the class is undesirable to play, there is the misconception that we gotta keep the monster in the cage.
This misconception plays out all the while you got a Druid with 900k HP fight discouraging people from doing Bgs.
You need some scruples, to let that stuff pass even if you have to borrow some.
War Craft PvP has in many ways become a rinse and repeat of stuns till you die, the group this appeals too are somewhat elite I think ?
On the positive War Craft has the best story-line and Raiding and content unequaled.
I agree I miss survival the way it was. Fave spec for PVP back in the day. Explosive shot was great I loved that.
I really like the new survival …
Intimidation at 60 secs should be cut to match stuns by other classes.
Increase range of Trackers Net and make it no dispel 7-10 sec.
Moving from shadow meld to camouflage removes all de buffs and dots shadow is every 2 mins.
Increase damage to bombs, poison sting and melee.
His hit points are lower than are a caster increase some, if not cap damage from spells 1/3 my hit points and I got less than others already.
A real health regenerate please of a quicker refresh to what we have.
Small increases and changes nothing drastic but the survival hunter is actually his own class very fun to play would probably be hard to balance.
Allow me to select my bomb and do not make that random why is it random anyways ?
If you tweak the Survival Hunter with caution he would be more inline with damage and stun capabilities as other classes.
You tweak too much and …
What bm needs to press 3 button now and that makes it complex?
Survival is already in OP status in PvP mostly due to the fact that Blizzard will never want to nerf one of the most unpopular specs in the game while they brutally nerfed BM at the very start and MM started off and has remained terrible. Its PvP talents and damage output are better than the other Hunter specs in arenas and that’s why it has been substantially higher in representation in 1800+ this expansion despite being a deeply unpopular pick everywhere else.
Everything you’re asking for is completely ridiculous and out of line, and all your posts on this forum about SV being underpowered are wildly out of touch and misinformed. You are basically demanding nothing less than SV being an unkillable god in PvP. Frankly I think it’s one thing for the spec to be melee in the first place but it’s a whole new level of ridiculousness to tune the melee spec to be better than the ranged specs in PvP, forcing Hunter PvP to centre around melee combat after years and years of out iconic ranged play. Your spec should be nerfed, not buffed.