So here’s what you don’t seem to understand. If blizzard adds dual spec, the people who want it were right, if blizzard doesn’t add dual spec the people who want it are still right as the only position given is that blizzard might add dual spec.
On the other hand since your position is that dual spec won’t be added the only thing you can do is lose. At best you tie with the people who want dual spec.
/shrug the challenge remains open, present an actual in game problem with dual spec. So far noone has managed to do so and just fall back on #nochanges.
The closest anyone has come is that it might change the raid dynamic, but they are unable to explain why that would be a problem or answer why simply adding a cooldown doesn’t address the issue.
No, you just dismiss all arguments as nochanges even when they have nothing to do with no changes.
No I dismiss incorrect arguments(dismiss with reasoning mind you not just dismiss out of hand). I did acknowledge the one legitimate complaint brought up. Yet you refuse to address the simple solution to it, because your position is not that dual spec is actually bad, you just want #nochanges.
Don’t talk about Zipzo like that, tis rude
Yup, it’ll be in Wrath where it belongs. Alongside other features introduced in Wrath.
So you still chose to ignore the economic impacts dual spec has on the game, the social aspect it effects, the player behavior, how it shifts away from rpg and toward the “I can do it all” aspect of game design goals/intentions, exc.
None of which are nochanges, but please keep spewing your lies, it just exposes that you aren’t worth listening to.
I gave a list of over 10 reasons. You addresses ONE and blindly dismiss the rest as nochanges.
Completely false across the board. People way early on (before your time) predicted they would be here a couple of phases ago. Thats how amazing and obvious dual specs were for those that remember. Those that didn’t or just straight up denied they did still explicitly imply it in every post against non dual spec arguments.
For example. I, CK, dont think dual specs will be implemented for these X,Y and Z reasons. Dual spec white knight: “those are not real reasons or any reasons that negate dual specs from being a reality”. Here are fabricated reasons Im interpreting as evidence to fit my agenda that contradict yours. The implication here is that they are indeed a reality. You’re plenty guilty of this.
They’re not and never were.
What do you expect from that Wall of No troll? He never wanted Classic servers, and mocked and ridiculed those of us who did. These are the type of people now insisting on the direction of a Classic server they fought against even being made.
citation needed
And I, feywaif, would like to see dual spec implemented for these A, B, C reasons. That doesn’t mean I think or I’m implying it will be implemented. I have no idea what the devs will do. I had no idea they would limit dungeons to 30 a day and if asked I’d have said not likely. I argued long and hard that input broadcasting software that multiboxers use was bad for the game yet when asked I agreed that it was never going to change. I clearly don’t have any idea what blizzard is going to do next.
I don’t get why you think guessing what blizzard is gonna do is interesting. It bores me so I don’t do it or pay attention when other people do it. But if you link to your posts that said blizzard is planning to limit dungeons to 30 per day and ban input broadcasting software I’ll admit that you do have some insider knowledge about what the devs are planning. Until then I don’t care about your guesses
Yep, they were not blindly dismissed you were given reasons why all those others were incorrect. Which you were then unable to respond to.
Citation: This forum. Just go into some of our post histories and scroll alllll the way back to some of the old threads which have been here since - like- launch.
Once you take it beyond the realm of opinion and make it a debate with no holds barred contrarian rhetoric you are assuming the burden of that very implication and that the facts are ultimately going to decide which of the two arguments is correct - or at the very least who is guided by common sense and who is pulling their trollcraft out of a cracker jack box.
The results speak for themselves. There are no dual specs. It was never a realistic option - “popular” isnt a convincing enough argument and never will be.
Its not a guess. Dual specs don’t actually exist in any capacity whatsoever. You cant prove otherwise. Youre the one guessing, in case its not obvious how backwards you are about this.
No, you just blindly dismissed them.
Your argument about how it effects the economy boiled down to “well gold is already inflated and people buy it so it doesn’t matter” but it does matter, it makes the problem even worse.
Your reasons were nothing more than “it doesn’t matter to me, so it’s not a real reason, you are just nochanges!”.
Well no, I did not blindly dismiss them, I provided reasons why they are incorrect which you were unable to refute.
And if it was simply a matter of what I do or don’t care about I also wouldn’t have acknowledged the potential impact on raid dynamics. However that is actually a legitimate complaint which is why I actually acknowledged it and proposed a viable solution. Which you rejected as you don’t care about actual in game issues, you just want #nochanges.
It;s only my opinion that adding dual spec would get more people involved in more parts of the game and that it would make it easier to find groups. In my opinion that would be good for the game.
I’m guessing that no one who posts on the forums knows what the devs are going to do next. I’ve seen no evidence that any one here has any insider information. But if you link to your posts that said blizzard is planning to limit dungeons to 30 per day and ban input broadcasting software I’ll admit that you do have some insider knowledge about what the devs are planning. Until then I don’t care about your guesses
Zipzo: That’s nice.
Redheadchild: That’s nice.
Corpseknife: That’s nice.
also Blizzard: That’s nice.
Actually I do know some of what the devs will do. Maybe not the exact next thing they are going to do, but they will be releasing sunwell in tbcc. And some time after that they will be releasing wotlkc.
How do I know this?
Blizzard said they intended to do these things and/or from datamined information.
Want to know what there is NO information on in terms of seeming it will be added to the game for tbcc? Dual spec.
Ziryus is level 70.
You’re level 23.
Who’s the one who didn’t want Classic servers? You won’t post on a character above level 59 either, because that’s the highest level character you have and you paid boosted it.
Oh look, you don’t like the truth of what he is saying so you armory attack. What a surprise.