Any blood elf's here that don't like how evil the horde became

Hmm yes… but do you have any proof?

it’s not a joke, it’s just one of those bizarre and dismissive strawman arguments. no one said it, but if you say people are saying it you sound right by relation. no need to build a strong argument if you just convince people the opposing argument is ludicrous.

By claiming that we want all Horde players to die or whatever, we are forced to stop the discussion to defend our positions against the idea, thereby grinding discourse to a halt.

This is not by accident.

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Someone RP slapping you once doesn’t excuse your years of toxic behavior. You are no martyr so get off your cross already.

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Playing a faction in a video game does not make you a victim nor does it give you the right to insult other people based on what they play.

Never said that.

Never did that.

Do I need to say it again?

Are you serious?

WHO IS DOING THIS?

The absolute baseless nonsense of this post is downright staggering and insulting. If anyone is denying evidence it is you. There are multiple people on this forum and in this thread that love to equate IC actions with OOC attitudes and you yourself think Horde players should be punished for Blizzard’s incompetence when it comes to the story.

Nobody did this.

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C’mon, guy.

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Go up. Look at the posts. It’s happening in this thread. No one has pushed back against that behavior. No one has said anything.

And as for the rest: yeah, you did. There are mountains of posts calling you out, but you’re still insisting, to peoples’ faces, that the things that are happening are not happening.

That’s gaslighting.

Didn’t they? This seems pretty close to me.

I skipped like, over 100 posts because I was asleep and even in the last chunk of posts that I have read most of that stuff happened. The only one I didn’t personally see in the last few minutes of reading was:

that one, because I think it was in the chunk of posts I didn’t see.

I guess this is what makes me the most sad: how easily principles get thrown out because someone doesn’t like the person getting it.

The things people will tolerate, the valiant pushback they always offered suddenly gone quiet because the person on the receiving end of that antisocial behavior isn’t someone they like.

I understand when people don’t like me. I’ve made mistakes, been a part of bad blood. I understood that, accepted it. But man, I’m not worth compromising your principles over.

Know that, in all the responses that follow that I won’t read, this has been a tragedy.

I mean, sure, people miss things.

But there it is. It’s out there. What people choose to do with it is up to them, but it’s pretty clear that the behavior we don’t permit on this server is behavior we will permit if we don’t like the person getting it.

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You’re using hypberbole to exaggerate a point. Nobody said that all horde players should die. However it has been said that Horde Players should suffer because of Blizzard’s incompetent writing and put in the back seat for several expansions in favor of another faction when in fact this would just cause the game to just further stagnate.

I didn’t realize you were the arbiter of what is and isn’t acceptable behavior. Excuse me.

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You do realize your behavior is just proving her correct, don’t you?

All Horde players are personally responsible for Blizzard’s bad writing and are all terrible people for not playing Alliance instead.

They’re using hyperbole?

Is belittling abuse victims acceptable to you?

This has nothing to do with me, man. This is about what you’ll let slide and what you’ll condone. You can insist “it’s a video game” all you want, but you’re going to have to make a decision whether your principles are faction-based.

Disagreeing with someone is not abuse.

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YES THEY ARE. Because the opponent they are arguing with is using hyperbole doesn’t mean they should use it to try to disprove my point.

I am a player of this game. Number 1. First and foremost. I played Alliance in BC and switched to Horde in Wrath. I have characters on both factions and I play thorugh all quest areas and faction storylines when I have time. What I want is for all players to have the best experience possible.

The notion that “horde should take a back seat” is not only ridiculous but flat out making blizzard shoot themselves in the foot(let’s be real they’ve been doing that alot lately).

You’re gaslighting me by denying that I even acknowledged what she said.

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What I find really weird is how… what has actually happened is that there have been sporadic cases of individual Horde players who do handwave or worse condone some of the stuff we see in the narrative, and these individuals have been taken to task by others on both sides of the color line. Right?

And over time this has somehow mutated into “Alliance always says Horde players are all condoning genocide and slavery all the time.” It’s absolutely baffling. I know when I bring the story up I’m generally not talking about the players.

This is more gaslighting, dude. You’re telling us that hyperbole isn’t actually happening when it’s someone you like.