How do you rpthis dilema
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As in, how do you justify remaining with the Horde in character?
I don’t currently RP a blood elf but I’d say Jaina’d be a big factor. Last time the Blood Elves nearly rejoined the Alliance, Jaina arrested a large portion of their population and killed a few along the way too, in Dalaran.
Some may even bring up the Garithos dilemma as well. Even though Garithos was a poor representative of the Alliance, and one who arguably had little authority, an attempted genocide is an attempted genocide. I can’t imagine that every blood elf is trusting enough to run to the Alliance, even after a few ears, although some probably are.
I guess, at the end of the day… the Horde has had the Blood Elf’s backs, for some time now. Turning their back on that probably isn’t ideal, especially now that the Horde is reforming into a more pacifistic organisation.
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Would you say many blood elfs still hold a grudge against the alliance since garithos and dalaran killings were somewhat recent still?
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I’d say it’s not unfair for them to do so - but I would say it depends on the blood elf. Clearly the void elves, who were Blood Elves until quite recently, were quite okay with the idea of joining the Alliance. So, not as much of a grudge there.
But the way I see it, at least, these people live for thousands of years. They have long memories. An event that happened such a short time ago as MoP and Warcraft 3… probably isn’t going to be forgotten quickly. At least, not by everyone.
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It is also important to remember that Dalaran allowed, if not condoned, the execution without a trial by their peers of the entire Sin’dorei army on the say-so of a known bigot and Human-supremacist, and the guards in Dalarans prison were laughing at and taunting the prisoners.
Then we get to the starting zone where a lot of folks gloss over the Kaldorei actively sabotaging the Sin’dorei efforts to supply enough magical energies to prevent the majority of their species devolving into subhuman, cannibalistic monsters, presumably with tactic approval from the Alliance given the text involved uncovering the Dwarven ambassadors role in the events.
Yeah, as bad as the Horde has been in recent years, they haven’t tried to do the Sin’dorei dirty yet.
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Also, Blood Elves themselves are not soft friendly nice people. They define themselves by their loss and vengeance. The very name of their people is to never forget what they’ve lost. When they had no sunwell, they sucked out the magic of life its self from the creatures around them, they became like demons, and exiled those who refused to devour the very life of creatures and enemies. Those who were unhappy about joining sides with those who once invaded their lands, were openly mind controlled. The Blood Knights, originally understood that they controlled the Light by force. And because that’s not how the Light works, it means they considered it good, by their morals, to have been draining a Naaru for their own power.
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The Blood Elf characters I used to play before I gave up on Horde were never in support of Quel’thalas’ inclusion into the Horde. A lot of it, for them, stems from the hatred of the Orcs from the Second War, who burned down part of Quel’thalas and waged a savage campaign against the Quel’dorei.
If Blood Elves are still pissed as all hell at Garithos still for his actions, why is it believable that they’d forgive the Orcs, or be willing to work with Trolls of all races? Thalassian elves are elitist and arrogant to the extreme, and have an undying hatred of Trolls… yet they join a Troll faction that later makes an Alliance with the Troll empire.
The Alliance led by Stormwind is a far cry different from the Alliance remnants led by Garrithos, and it sucks that the Blood Elves joining the Horde was mainly done for balancing done by Blizzard.
So, for RP, most of them are outspoken Sin’dorei nationalists and despise the Horde, but are unable to act out due to the extremity of Thalassian laws restricting speech. Many aren’t happy with their recent treatment by the Alliance, granted, but they still want to be separate from the Horde, especially given how the Horde has turned out.
Mostly, they’re living on the fringes of society and evading conscription, outright refusing to fight for the Horde and setting off on their own - and leaving home, or joining resistance groups that advocate for the independence of Quel’thalas.
Garrosh wants a word with you. The Horde has used the Sin’dorei as cannon fodder; in Northrend and in many other conflicts, and they’ve suffered horribly for it.
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So basically the alliance almost / could of committed their own genocide of the blood elf’s? Why is what you say glossed over so much. It almost seems as bad as what the horde did recently
Sylvanas killed almost everyone who was involved in that attempt, and the Blood Elves who escaped, went to Outland. Kil’jaeden offered them power, vengeance, respect. And then we killed a lot of them.
Myst would be entirely the wrong person to ask about this. She spent much of Dow’s history after the scourge invasion far south. She witnessed the Pandaria invasion from an outsiders view. It gave her the unique ability to see that both sides are exactly the same.
Simple because both the Alliance and Horde laid waste to Pandaria, and she found herself having to kill soldiers under both banners who crossed the line and ignored the warnings to leave.
She only rejoined the horde psuedo when the Legion invaded the peak of serenity. And from there one thing lead to another and boom darkshore.
But that also taught her where she was wrong and it wasn’t the horde doing those things, they just had to follow orders of a mad high command. So she kept her head own and focused on the medical side of war with her mistweaving.
And after she got “forced” by an old enemy to fake her death? She took the chance to outsmart that enemy and kill him to get away from the military completely.
Mostly cause she died recorded as the name she stole…from Aelsa’Mori Mystfire. The woman she murdered to cover her tracks. So she knew the military would dig that up and bury her under the courthouse.
Human prince kills 90% of the population. and even though the remaining 10% is actively trying to help, they get betrayed… then as theyre trying to get back on their feet. the alliance goes out of their way to sabotage them
not true. Aethas was pushing for the elves to get involved in Northrend long before Sylvanas said something.
Garrosh wanted the elves to prove themselves worthy of being horde by having them look into a magical bell. Makes sense, seeing as magic is the elves forte.
Even sylvanas hasnt done anything to the detriment of the belves.
basically my toons are “Oh? How does that affect me? It doesn’t, so I don’t care”
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Elves. Blood elves.
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Minor issue with this is that it limits it all to belves, when it is pretty clearly gonna stretch further than belves.
I mean, blood elves aren’t exactly the picture of moral righteousness in and of themselves. I’d imagine on the whole they’d be significantly more down with the Horde doing evil stuff, truthfully.
That doesn’t mean individuals can’t have their own perspectives, though. WoW’s races aren’t a hive mind, despite how much the writers want to convince you they are; a blood elf is more then capable of trying to change the Horde from the inside or straight-up leaving for greener pastures.
Or, ah, less-green pastures, I suppose.
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Are a large portion of blood elves evil? I havent heard of that
Blood elves value survival first and foremost, or at least used to, which leads to situations of their doing stuff that ranges from morally ambiguous at best to indefensible at worst in the name of staying alive. They did sort of have a movement where they tried to join up with army of omnicidal maniacs, after all.
But, those same people also later defected to form the Scryers, who did act basically good, even if they were sort of brats about it sometimes. So, again, a race can be culturally okay with “doing what needs to be done” while still having individuals or even splinter factions fight against it.
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Each character has their own individual way of dealing with things, and reasoning for what they will support or oppose. It’s a challenge to play that out with any validity in-character when game mechanics limit you to a race/faction combination.
One character stays because they’d never betray the Sin’dorei people or leave Quel’Thalas. If that means sticking it out with the Horde, so be it. Allies are not made for the good days only.
Another stays with the Horde because they’ve been with the Alliance and in the long run, dislike them more than the Horde. Mostly for many of the xenophobic reasons mentioned above.
Another character would happily kill all the orcs and trolls, won’t support the Horde and can’t stand being allied with any of them. But game mechanics make it “not Horde” in name only.
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Didn’t the blood elves enslave a light angel and drain it’s power source
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We all know the answer to this, but saying it aloud would start a fight.
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They also are one of many Horde races that practices slavery.