anti-RDF is anti-Wrath

I have been cycling between alts on Mankirk do level through some dungeons and have struggled to find groups in all roles as DPS/Heal and Tank. 2 50’s (Heal/DPS) and 2 60+ (Tank/DPS) toons. Every time I look in the LFG tool and attempt to use it, a few scenarios happen.

  1. I request to join a group and get denied or no response from the leader.
  2. Create my own party - fill on DPS and after waiting half an hour for a tank, someone requests to join - they get invited - only to get immediately kicked because it was a Hunter and we needed a tank.
  3. Log to another toon and repeat.

If there’s not going to be change on their stance to implement the RDF, could we at least get some QOL improvements to the tool as it is now?

I’d at least like to see the level, role and class of the player that’s requesting to join my party.

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All of this exists in the actual LFG tool which should’ve just been a 1:1 copy paste from Retail, instead we received a completely different version of that tool that is completely void of any of the QoL.

I think between them needing to update it and most of the feedback being to remove it, I don’t know what they could even do at this point but whatever it is they need to start communicating.

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Can you read? I understand completely what “new content” means. I just disagree that no new content means there’s a content drought for people who never raid at all, the majority of players. By that standard there wasn’t a year long content drought. For non raiders there was a 2 year content drought.

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True, letting tempers flare on the forums is not helping anything. They need to speak, I am tired of complaining about RDF removal. I would love some clarification, is the answer the same or did they come to their senses. Either way they should speak.

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But that will mean having people working. Activision can’t allow that.

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People liked WOTLK for the classes and the raids not for RDF, I would put money on people rather having vanilia everything except for WOTLK classes and raids.

WOTLK was the start of its downfall with their design decisions.

Is that why WotLK had a bigger amount of subscriptions in 2008-2010 than Vanilla 2004-2007 and TBC, 2007-2008?

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Wrong, this can be easily disproven with a google search. RDF never led to the fall of anything and neither did WoTLK, it only dropped mid-way through Cata.

Second thing you’re wrong about, a majority of people want RDF back. It makes no sense to die on a hill of no RDF when in reality all it does is help the playerbase and with Cross Realm Battlegroup which came out as the same time of RDF, it prevents Mega Server meta as well which is a big problem in Classic.

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You can still be playing the game and be in a content drought. The fact your playing doesnt change that.

It’s a slow boiling frog issue. The features might have been perceived as good at the time, but people at the time just didn’t know better, after all it’s a long running experiment. We people from the future should know better and have no excuse to repeat the same mistakes.

Its not about a new raid.

There was no new quests, dailies, dungeons, raids, profession items, exc. For a year. And not only a year but almost as long as the rest of the expansion put together. 3.3 was just a few weeks short of taking the same amount of time as 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2 put together. Its not just a content drought because of how long 3.3 lasted, its a content drought because of how long it lasted in comparison to all of the other wotlk major content patches put together.

All your shouting and whining and you end up with a flagged post that is “temporarily hidden”. Who is the real troll here I wonder

/shrug what ever. For the majority of players there was no content drought. Once again blizzard has said the back then the majority of players didn’t raid. You seem to think those who didn’t raid at all, not even the first raid that was released in wrath, not even the bc raids thought that when there was no raid released after ICC, a raid they didn’t even do, that they thought there was a content drought. Once again all you’re showing is how clueless you are about the majority of the players, Who are casual players. The fringe group of hard core players always think they’re the most important players in the game. They’re not. The majority of the players have never cared about what the fringe group of hardcore players did or thought.

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People such as yourself who want to then falsely flag to get attention

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Wouldn’t worry about trying to explain them. They’ll come up with something to ignore what has been explained.

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I support the addition of RDF :slight_smile:

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Not having RDF at all is considered straying away from the source material since you are removing a system and which I have stated in my original post

Not having RDF at all is considered straying away from that authentic experience, I would be fine waiting till the ICC phase if Blizzard ever makes a budge as that is what the time that it has released in.

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Lol if that’s your metric for a troll thread then every anti-RDF poster is the biggest troll on the forum.

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RDF in retail is no failure. It’s quite good. EVENTUALLY you stop using the RDF and queue for mythics. And THIS TOOL SEARCHES MULTIPLE SERVERS. Not just one.

Eliminating battle groups WILL HURT wrath classic. The only function it will likely serve is for PVP. Not adding it to PVE for dungeon crawling is a terrible mistake. When ICC rolled out, so did the dungeon finder.

I get making it disappear for “raid finder”. But the dungeon tool for both leveling and raid prep is a fantastic tool. More so in the old days. The queue system also included FROST BADGES in wrath. Important for gearing. Helped get you into the groups raising your gear score.

You forget how undeniably anal people were back then. Forcing that gearscore website on folks. I too was one of those folks. But I won’t lie, and say dungeon finder was a detriment. It wasn’t. It was an amazing tool. Not just for leveling. But for gearing as well. AND STILL IS - until you’re doing mythic + in retail. You don’t even do heroic dungeons anymore once you’re geared past it.

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Out of curiosity, why did you hate WOTLK? It was the same fundamental game, but slightly less punishing than TBC. People like to pretend TBC heroics were super punishing at the end, but once you were geared they were almost as faceroll as WOTLK heroics.