anti-RDF is anti-Wrath

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anti-RDF is anti-Wrath, plain and simple.

ICC Patch released Cross Server Battlegroups + LFD, both features are part of the original Wrath experience.

I am paying for the original Wrath experience which was promised at the start of Classic WoW:

Q. What is WoW® Classic?
A. World of Warcraft Classic is a faithful recreation of the original WoW experience, as it was in 2006. Everything about the game—from combat mechanics and talent trees, to character models and zone layouts—has been restored to realize a truly authentic experience. You can learn more in our [WoW Classic Primer for New Players]

Wrath Classic is no longer a faithful recreation of an original WoW experience.

We are being given a dysfunctional LFG tool from Retail that does not work nor does it help socialization, and we are not given Cross Realm Battlegroups which would kill off Mega Servers as people from low pop servers can play with high pop via the LFD tool which also came out in the same patch.

Before all the anti-RDF trolls come swarming in here, let’s debunk some popular talking points:

anti-RDF: RDF should not come at the start, it released in ICC.

We are playing on the 3.3.5 ICC patch, all the specializations, nerfs, buffs and balancing which is a core part of the game is coming from that patch. This logic does not work as you cannot cherry pick what you want and don’t want, if you’re playing on that patch you should get ALL of the patch features or NONE of the patch features.

anti-RDF: RDF is what led to the downfall of WoW, it killed socialization.

If you look at ANY chart on showing WoW’s subscribers from 2006 all the way to WoD you will see that we had a steady increase in subscribers and only dropped off during Cata, RDF did not cause anyone to leave or quit the game as this is just pure trolling.

Socialization does not exist in the current Retail LFG tool nor does it exist in the LFG chat, all it does is encourage gate keeping, spending hours and hours looking for groups and wasting people’s time.

LFD and Cross Realm Battlegroups would enhance your social experience, not detract from it.

My last closing thoughts on this is to let people know that RDF will eventually come back, there is too much support for it all across YouTube/Twitch/Reddit/Discord/etc.

The only pocket of people who claim RDF isn’t needed come from this forum which represents a very minuscule portion of the player base.

We are the majority, and Blizzard will do what is right or they will lose a solid chunk of their player base.

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I would love to agree, but I’m more inclined that the majority of the playerbase is apathetic, as they always have been.

They really struggle with this one, regardless of the topic.

As proRDF as I am, I’m not quitting Classic over it. I’ll play it a lot less, and obviously do just the bare necessity of dungeon grinding, but Wrath DKs are my favourite + the people I play with are all solid folk who want to continue playing.

And regardless of what Blizzard chooses to do with Wrath or after Wrath, I’m 100% done with the company once I’ve had my fill of Wrath content. Not like there isn’t plenty of other great games out there, and I’ve been pretty successful in convincing my group to give other MMOs a shot.

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i hated wrath. first time i looked for a new MMO while playing wow.

(I found it in EVE Online)

i am anti-RDF and anti-wrath.

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Oh look another LFG/RDF/GDKP/Rankoneboost/Garmuck troll thread. Neat.

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Hey, at least you aren’t a massive hypocrite. That I can respect.

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I respect your opinion. For me once that XP buff ends and with dungeons nerfed, I will never level another alt again from scratch. Sitting in LFG chat for 4 hours is not ideal for me, and I believe this will also affect my gameplay at Lv 80 to find groups as well since using the Retail tool is the only way to find groups.

I will most likely lose interest too if things don’t turn around, these changes just don’t seem healthy to maintaining a player base.

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Your first quote is referencing 2006 WoW, you’re not paying for what you think you are. Your second point is flawed, we are missing a lot more content from the patch we’re balanced around, for obvious reasons. I don’t agree with the third argument you’re attacking, so I’ll ignore that bit.

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It’d be flawed if we didn’t have systems that were added in 3.1, but alas … everyone is enjoying dual spec and BG queue from anywhere

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I think you (sourscream) are the one misrepresenting what the quotes meaning is /shrug. “Faithful Iteration”

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Nope, I got that off a QnA from Blizzard that describes the motives of the entire Classic project as a whole.

They are not missing, they were removed and replaced with inferior solutions.

The third argument has nothing to attack, all it shows is the objective data of WoW subscribers that anyone can find.

Socialization is also non existent in LFG, people have some very specific examples but for most people it’s not the case.

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Nah, the quotes talking about vanilla classic being faithful to '06 WoW, it’s not talking about Wrath or Classic expansion being faithful to their respective times. It plainly says WoW Classic is trying to faithful to WoW as it was in '06

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It was from a marketing post pre-Vanilla Classic launch.

Where has Blizzard officially changed their stance on that the goal of Classic was no longer to create authentic recreations of the game as it was?

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Nah man, it’s about Classic Vanilla, not the future classic expansions. It even says '06, it’s not talking about faithfully making '08 TBC or '10 Wrath.

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Meanwhile RDF is in retail and look how that turned out. How many more examples do you need of failure?

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It’s literally from their marketing for Classic as a project lol…

Go ahead and answer that.

The current example of failure is Classic, it’s impossible to find groups since they literally took the very Retail tool you hate and put it into Classic. LFG chat is anti social, it promote gate keeping and is just spammed with GDKPs constantly.

LFD was in the original game, if you don’t want LFD in the game then you probably won’t like the rest of Wrath either because they’re all part of the same package deal.

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Okay, fine.

Keep Wrath out of Classic

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Or maybe you can find a different MMO because I assume you’re going to whine about Retail also.

Classic has always been for recreating the older WoW experience, we want Wrath. Not whatever abomination we have now.

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Meanwhile RDF isn’t in Classic era, and look at how that turned out?

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Just stop, there is a lot of players the issue is you don’t want to do the work to get 5 people together.

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Sure, I can’t argue with someone who reached their conclusion by emotion instead of logic.

In reality no one wants to spam 4 hours in a LFG chat to find groups, all LFG does is promote GDKPs and encourages mega servers to exist.

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