We play an MMORPG, not a singleplayer game. Do you really think implementing LFG will have no impact on the experience of those people not using it? By your logic I should tell you to just not play WOTLKC if you want LFG because you’re ruining MY experience.
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“All the information”
Yeah, no. I really don’t think they sent surveys to all current and former WoW players and asked them if they were planning to play WotLK.
People wanna say “oh if you don’t wanna play it, no one will miss you”, but myself and countless others who won’t play it without LFD put in as it originally was will sit in satisfaction and laugh to ourselves as we watch the population on the classic servers die off even more when we know it could have been much larger.
I honestly agree with the people who are saying why doesn’t Blizzard just add LFD and keep it off a few select servers and offer players free server transfers to those servers. Then the anti-LFD crowd can go play on those servers and be happy and the rest of us can play with LFD and be happy.
Can’t have it both ways. No changes is no changes. No changes for TBC should be no changes for WOTLK. 
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Your social circles of what? 50-100 people?
Just stop dude, reddit/mmo-champ/youtube etc aren’t just full of purely pro-lfd people.
My own internal classic communties (guild/raid groups/etc) are sad there is no LFD planned.
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Well no changes is dead and buried ever since boosting and the store mount came along. You can even argue megaservers since launch already got rid of nochanges and created server population problems that lead us to where we are now with LFG. Nochanges to wrath would mean you would get LFG alongside ICC, which wasn’t out until 65% through the expansion.
I’m just saying that nobody can point at a majority and say how this will go. 100 isn’t a majority, 6000 isn’t a majority of the playerbase. So If possible please stick to the arguments about the benefits/negatives of LFG and not persist with the “majority of people want it” angle which can’t be proven.
I’ve played since late (original) vanilla. I remember LFD groups in Wrath. Of course there were some bad ones but they were far outweighed by good ones. You can’t claim people who want LFD didn’t play back then, because it’s not true.
6000 is more than a proper sample size for 1-5 million people, its statistically accurate up to around a 1% variance. It’s actually too many honestly.
And there’s no way I wouldn’t argue that most people likely want Wrath as it was, not some blizzard dev’s ego’s version of Wrath.
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More than some random survey anyways.
Quality in RDF groups are more likely to be worst then those with manual grouping.
Now those that are too lazy to do dungeons manually can queue for RDF, and once it gets too inconvenient they can leave, and requeue after a short timer. It harbors bad play.
I think if your argument is “I don’t want to group with bad players” then not group with bad players solves the issue. The other argument is “I want to enjoy the social aspect of forming a group” then make friends and form a group. I plan on running with my friend group filling as needed, I just don’t want to have to LFG for a pug at the end of every dungeon.
Removing a feature of the game entirely is not the right approach to the issue. Changing the feature would be a viable option, I’m a fan of just heavily weighting the Cross Server function to your own server so that it doesn’t do Cross server until you’ve que for like 20-30 minutes and removing the teleport function (Idc about this but somehow that’s also a concern for people).
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The personal insults come out. I did play back then, I enjoyed the RDF tool and think it would be great here. People thinking it’s going to hurt the community just don’t have the social skills to make friends is all.
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??? what are you even saying lol. Destroy ?! Lazy people with gold won’t by magic have the urge to start leveling again by themselves because LFD is put in at launch. They will still get boosted in dungeon while they are afk doing something else.
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It’s horrible and has no place in Classic.
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That’s like your opinion man.
Polls have disagreed with your opinion and coming on here to Troll / throw insults around doesn’t make your opinion the majority.
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The dungeon finder provides massively more XP than boosting. Will there still be some? Sure, but overall people boost because it’s quick and convenient, LFD is better than it.
Ok, if you think the quality in those groups will be worse then you can still make your own manual groups. How bad you think LFD groups might be won’t matter if you’re not doing them.
And yeah, I don’t think Blizzard had any info about how many people might or might not want LFD, aside from their classic lead deciding he didn’t and enacting the decision. I don’t even think they listened to “the classic community” as they claim, because I’ve seen a ton of current classic players out here talking about how they do want LFD.
How long did LFG last? There is a reason live has never gone back, because LFG is a degenerate system. Blizzard makes content for the player base to engage in. RFD promotes inclusion, very simple more people doing content = better game retention= more subs= more money. Current Blizzard going off of information? Guess you haven’t kept up with the last 3 xpacs. They’ve had information day 1 of all those beta’s, only takes them til the last patch to address the issues.
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The basis of using polls to determine a change was only ever used by OSRS. OSRS had an in game poll, not a sample size and didn’t just poll QOL changes to the game and required a supermajority (75%) with a minimum of 300 total level to participate. No decision should ever be made on the basis of 0.6%-0.12% in a very skewed sample size. You can say you found a sample size shows a majority, but once again saying it’s what the majority wants definitively is totally inaccurate.
I think they really do listen to the community. I just think they’re not tuned in as well as they think they are. For instance the Lead dev is talking about playing SoM and doing WC which is all fine and dandy but that’s a super minority of the player base and maybe not the best to find info on what the community wants two expansion from then.
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There’s no real way to get around saying that you will influence another persons experience playing the game though. Like it or not, LFG will change how other people play the game that don’t use the system. And as I said before, it’s also totally fair for those people to say to you that you’re then forcing them to play the game the way you want and for them to tell you to play retail which has a LFG system.
Multiple sample sizes that show a majority, you’re only arguing against it because it’s not what you want.
If you had shown me the same amount of data that said no one wants it, I wouldn’t be here arguing it with you.
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