how does LFD upset elitists who will be less likely to use it? Do you realize people in guilds and who raid on the regular are not offended by LFD and personally while I have zero interest in LFD and am very unlikely to use it, I also know in wrath’s easiest content in WoW history; it serves a use to this community who’s already poisoned by the idea of it so at this point there is no saving wow from it, so why remove it?
That doesn’t change my point that often even when the majority of a sample size might feel that way (which can vary considerably e.g you linked a specific youtube channel i’ve never seen before which may lean a certain way on this) those that feel another way aren’t going to be as visible.
If it was about its integrity then release it when 3.3 was actually released alongside ICC.
You guys are missing the biggest issue here. Gold Farmers will exploit LFD like you wont believe. This is why it shouldnt be implemented
I truly do believe with or without RDF if they remove it lots of players won’t even join wrath compared to those that dislike it but will still play and put up with it and still have chat features.
People have been looking forward to Wrath since Vanilla Classic was announced.
However to not include the race or faction services like wrath and not include Dungeon finder is a huge issue. Myself included made my prot paladin strictly to tank for quick queue’s in Wrath.
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LFD doesn’t work that way, you can’t queue outside of your level range.
Which is fine by me, delay dual spec even as long as we get it untouched.
That’s just one post, every poll (pre-announcement mind you) shows similar numbers across all social media.
The issue here is getting into the same group, you’d have to do some kind of communication system like SoM does for BG ques. So you’d need to get everyone into Disc and que up multiple times with the Dps (The Mage) being last in que and the Healer / Tanks being first. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
The issue here is that you’re making a new toon and then just sending them all of this gold from no where?
Boosts will still happen with or without RDF, but with RDF they will be in less demand.
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Lvl 70-80 dungeons
No where did I say that.
This is a community game. You can’t play it how you want without everyone else agreeing.
Stop trying to force your bad casualness on everyone.
I mean, sure, i guess, but it destroys mage/pally boosting at lower levels. 15-70 mage/pally boosting would basically be dead, and I say that as a pally who has done it some times in the past.
So you’re saying theres a chance
Lol how is RDF going to prevent people from wanting to play with your winning personality?
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There really isn’t. Doing cross server Boosts isn’t viable and the only benefit boosters gain is the teleport function, which is already in the game via Summoning stones.
I’m sitting here wondering if Bonerover was part of the whole TBC Classic #nochanges crowd. No changes for TBC should = no changes for Wrath. Right?
grabs popcorn
These things are very complicated and sample sizes done pre or post announcement aren’t necessarily accurate or indicative of what the community wants either especially done by small sample sizes within their own communities. The channel you linked for instance is small and covers stuff like ingame shops, boosting, gold farming and recently wrath exclusively etc which isn’t really the kind of channel you would expect people who are going to vote no on LFD that overwhelmingly dislike things like cash shops, boosts etc to watch.
I think that it’s too soon to say that LFD is what the community overwhelmingly wants or not. Keeping focused on discussions about the cost/benefit makes more sense, right?
Across all forms of social media, not just that channel, what don’t you get?
And it just leads back to this.
Don’t change wrath, just don’t. They’ve made minor changes to Classic and TBC, but nothing is as major as the things they’re talking about changing in wrath.
The argument of “well if you dont like it just dont use it” is always such a bad one.
I’m fine with no LFD in wrath. It’s a bad system the way it is in wotlk. The people clamoring for it is odd to me tbh.
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As I said I think LFG in 3.3 alongside ICC is fine by me. But I think saying that it’s a overwhelming majority of players based largely on obscure polls predominantly from those interested and following wrath pre announcement will skew results one way. Among my social circles of current TBCC players (who will make up a significant potion of the playerbase of WOTLKC if not the majority) there’s no support for LFG, but none of them are on the forums or twitter etc doing polling.
What makes it bad though?
Its objectively bad compared to the future iterations of it.
What would be nice is the LFM tool of retail. The one in wotlk and the RDF in retail are essentially matchmaking lobbies. Matchmaking lobbies are bad for a MMO imho.
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It doesn’t. That’s the problem.
I can force my undergeared badly specced class of my choosing onto the others in the group. I can be afk for the majority of it and do whatever. Kicks are limited so chances are unless they want to 4 man it, they’ll just deal with it.
Thinking that this is a one off situation shows you didn’t play 15 years ago. RDF was a cancer for bad players.