For me, the issue I struggled to overcome when I played FF14 was the combat flow. It was genuinely monotone. I played a BLM to lvl50 and the only thing that changed as I leveled up was the damage values.
They said “it’s gets better,” but it took too long. I realized I forced myself to play it. Maybe it was BLM gameplay, but yeah… it’s probably good with a community to RP with, but solo felt extremely bland.
I’m always surprised it falls back to FF14. Always felt like ESO & SWTOR were a little better, but they all have their issues.
Never gave New World a hope though, just felt like Amazon looking for a buck.
I think people forget the state final fantasy was in when it released, they had to completely overhaul the game to get it in to its current state.
It’s called “a realm reborn” for a reason.
New world is definitely fixable, if Amazon is willing to commit to it like the square enix did.
I was in this group but Blizzard looking for Payers not Players made me check it out. Yes FF14 has a cash shop as well but its not as egregious as the WoW token.
That is the example. They took a game that made their fans unhappy. They apologized and promised to make it better. Then they did. They invested a lot of money and time to fix their product and make their fans happy.
WoW has the ability to do so. So does New World.
But in New World’s Case, it may just function as a Beta test for the IPs they are acquiring. They can maintain it and use it as a base for their next project.
In WoW’s case, they dont have a Yoshi P anymore. Most of their OG devs have moved on. Their studio just doesnt feel like they have the fire and passion to turn in around.
New world looks like it’s still in a beta mode. I don’t think it’s going to “die” anytime soon, but they def have a lot of work to do. Looks like there’s just not lots of in-game content yet…
not much different than how this game has been the past year and a half tbh lol
Amazon is rumored to be doing an Everquest update.
Also since they are airing a Wheel of Time series I wonder if they would consider doing a MMO.
Would also love an Expanse MMO
I tried out New World. Though combat was fun, the bugs were to numerous to ignore. Video game developers really need to test their products before going gold. The whole industry has gotten lazy and we the customers are enabling them.
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I tried the game out but refunded after 90 minutes, which was not my intention going in. It was actually the first game that I have ever refunded on Steam.
The combat felt pretty clunky and the game was completely weighed down by bugs and issues. The day I decided to try it, none of the servers were displaying names, only numbers, so I didn’t even know what server to click on to play with anyone.
With all of the massive duping issues going on, they really need to just do complete server wipes eventually and relaunch the game when figure out what they’re doing.
I feel Wow has lost it’s way due to the amount of systems and gated behind grinding content in the past few expansions. Hope still burns within me that they will return to the remedy that worked. When wow was at its peak.
Although I maintain a sub to rp with friends in ffxiv, and my friends tell me the storys so great. They never can say why. It feels like wow quest text has been pasted into chat windows, you know, the filler text which doesn’t add to story? With characters heads bobbing or looking startled for most of the time, the rare nugget of intriguing story inbetween. The entire lore of ffxiv seems to be able to be told in one dev stream, and from what friends have linked, has been done too. That’s not the depth of lore I enjoyed from earlier wow. Not even close.
They do alot right too, it’s a very casual mmo, where you can gain mounts at reasonable drop rates, and gear decently.
Neither is the killer of the other, and which is better is personal opinion.
Like mine on New world. Disliked it and not going back. I’m not sure what I would want in a new mmo that hasn’t been done already though.
~Prim
Would be nice if the companies respected our time a bit more. Most of us who started this game in our teens and early 20’s don’t have as much free time with other obligations.
I am assuming most of their base are people pushing past 30 or older. We don’t need systems to have fun.
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Games are all about personal taste. What I think is bad others will think good. I dont like Final Fantasy but I dont wish it to fail and if others enjoy it, good on 'em. I have yet to find a game that holds my affection and gives me the same depth of fun, and certainly can never carry with them 12 years of fabulous memories.
I dont care what games do great and which ones fail. If the people in charge of WoW get their heads out of wherever they are lodged and into the right space to return us to the kind of game we once loved, then Ill be one very happy player.
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This one gets it.
I feel like ESO and SWTOR have much better stories than ffxiv.
I hoped only that Amazon would release the Lord of the Rings mmo .
From what i remember, the single reason why SWTOR “failed” was because it couldn’t compete with respect to endgame content. If SWTOR was released in this current market I think it’d do decently well.
I believe that you’re right. I remember clearing the end game raid and doing hutt , eventually my guild lost interest and quit.
I’m looking forward to their new expansion. I’ve always been a fan of SWTOR.
I was honestly thinking about getting New World but after see what launch experience, I delayed that choice for about two weeks to see if they can fix it. Two weeks pass and youtubers are making videos and putting reviews on how buggy and boring the game is and how it dropped subs immediately. Around that time, it hadn’t been a month since launch date.
I’ll only try it out if they actually work on it and fix the issues then maybe I’ll join. But until then, I’m spending my money on WoW, ESO, maybe GW2 and Elden Ring.
I have a friend who plays BLM and he doesn’t like it when the duty roulette gives us a low level dungeon. He thinks BLM is super awful at low levels. I don’t recall what level they feel better (something about their rotation changes). If I recall correctly, PLD is another one that feels pretty bad low level.