Legion mage tower for sure got easier by the end of the expansion. I’m not disagreeing with that. I just disagree with this notion it was face roll for the average player. For higher skilled players like yourself? Sure, but to me that just means you were capable of beating it sooner if the character had been level 70 or you had more time or whatever reason.
I just don’t recall any videos even at the end of legion showing things like an arcane mage killing all 3 before any of the mechanics even started. Or a tank being able to kill Variss so fast that no infernals spawned so you had no worries about your positioning potentially getting you knocked off.
Arcane wasn’t as bursty back then as it is now. Arcane CD stacking wasn’t a big thing until SL which is when it became a mega burst spec with all of its damage amplifiers.
You’re entitled to your opinion but it’s factually wrong.
I’m all for it. During Legion I got all of the appearances I wanted at the time, but it’d be nice to back and do the ones that I skipped.
I think the biggest “problem” is that it would open a HUGE door to a lot of other appearances that have also been marked as unobtainable such as MoP & WoD Challenge Mode appearances, MoP Legendary cloaks, seasonal M+ appearances, etc. I don’t see that as a problem, personally, I think it’d be great if there was a way to obtain all older appearances. We can use Marks of Honor for old PvP sets (with the exception of Elite rated sets), so why not old PvE seasons? The community definitely seems divided on the topic though.
Bottom line, there are a lot of newer and returning players that missed some of the past content, alongside veterans who may have skipped it, and it’d be awesome to give everyone the option to grab some of those sweet appearances.
I think the thing there is most of the tryhard players did the mage tower in nighthold on their mains to flex so videos of people doing mage tower in full antorus mythic gear are likely nonexistant because once you did the mage tower you couldn’t go back in. If I said it was faceroll I misspoke and should correct it to mage tower is at a similar level of faceroll to how it was in legion. There will be difference in difficulty due to the times and the tools available, but it is and was by no means free content that everyone got then or now. But the effort needed to do it is comparable, I don’t believe the average arcane mage is speedrunning the challenge in 36 seconds using ashara’s stupid double on use trinket, and I know there were plenty of shadow priests in legion who did not use the surrender to madness cheese strat.
One aspect of the mage tower that never changed was all of the bosses were to some degree designed for sustained long term mechanics so the challenge was meant to be long fight learn how to survive and eventually win type stuff. However it also meant that if you figured out how to remove minutes off the fight you just cut off minutes of mechanics that you just don’t have to do. In particular god queen and imp mother were susceptible to that. So its hard not to call it faceroll in the sense that if you are pumping damage that the fight is not built for you can just negate half or more of the difficulty and turn it into a dps race. Not every player can do that of course, but I reckon at the end of legion any player that was doing at least normal antorus would have overgeared the mage tower to an extent that timewalking gear can only dream of imitating just from sheer primary stat difference. And once again this is just like normal raid players not the ones getting a weekly m+ cache or the like.
Prot paladin is rough right now, the vast majority of what makes them easy right now boils down to people exploiting some gear oversights (hardly a measure of how difficult the intended scaling is if you don’t effectively cheat) and a few niche cases were added abilities trivialize a specific mechanic. If exploits were closed there might be a couple that are still trivial for certain classes and otherwise it would be pretty challenging across the board.
As for your personal attacks on an alt I never use, case in point, you have no discussion towards the topic, just here to stamp your feet and scream I WANT!
The same way everything in a vendor in Northshire has no value.
You are the one upset here, let’s not try and pass the buck.
I’m clearly advocating for new content, new experiences, new themes.
This forum for the last 4~ years has been filled with threads about customization, how there’s not enough of it, how we shouldn’t all look the same, how everyone should be able to be unique.
So they overhauled the Barbershop, gave people thousands of options up from the tens/hundreds we had…
and now people are stamping their feet and throwing their toys out of the pram because they can’t look the same as everyone else over a handful of weapon meshes, that were always, from the moment they were announced, going to be limited time deals.
I will never understand that mindset.
We have an asset database filled with hundreds of thousands of things, more variety than we can literally shake a stick at, yet people are vehemently demanding to only use a tiny, tiny fraction of them because others have them, and they don’t.
I don’t have the TCG mounts, I also don’t use Amazon or Twitch, so I can’t get them, I’m not ranting and raving because I don’t have a Magical rooster.
I understand there are things people have that I will never have, and that’s fine.
A bit disenginuous.
Many people played Legion who simply could not do Mage Tower. But they were playing.
Majority of people.
Even now, last time I checked, less than 1% of MAUs have the book mount
I think it was like ~0.05 to 0.07% when I checked in DF S2.
So are you advocating for more free stuff you didn’t/can’t earn?
Or do you legitimately want to do the Mage Tower challenges for their appearances?
I should have written: “I am annoyed so many other players have the transmog I have and like, therefore, it should continue to be unavailable to others.”
I was pointing out how ridiculous it is to say others shouldn’t have something just because you don’t like it (or you don’t want them to have it).
(Also: how is calling a transmog “godawful” “pajamas” a “personal attack”? )
We’re not talking about items you can buy for a few copper being removed from the game. We’re talking about transmogs earnable via challenging content.
So, players who do not want the Mage Tower transmogs to be made earnable again are only posting because they do not have strong feelings on the topic?
And no one is disagreeing with that.
You do not understand the concept that someone thinks a piece of transmog looks cool and wants the ability to earn it?
You said, and I quote: “The vast majority of mage tower appearances were done in 7.3, when it was absolutely face roll.”
You provided no statistical citation to back up your vast majority claim and admitted you only did 3 out of 36 or 8%. Yet you said “it” was face roll implying that it is accepted fact that all of them are easy and not just your opinion. Your opinion based on doing 8% of the challenges.
pbs.twimg(dot)com/media/C9U2VSuU0AMdJ-i.jpg:large - With these stats from Blizzard, we can assume 0.9% of people got their appearances in 7.2
Fast forward to 7.3.5, with easier to get legendries and not to mention the much higher ilvl of gear, we can assume that’s when the vast majority of people got their appearances.
It was face roll when I got mine in 7.3.5. I sneezed and did it on my first try.
Nor do you. Though I never said all, but many DO. But screw them because they don’t validate your opinion, right?
The only reason you don’t care is because you want OTHER appearances you don’t have. I’ve seen you make threads on this topic precisely for this reason.
So your point sort of loses that “UMMMPH!” when you’re a biased individual. Sorry!
I forgot about this set for a while and saw a topic about somebody said they got their MT set and were happy. I said maybe I should do that. I didn’t even farm up any pieces to make it easier and did it within 10 tries.
Knowing this I may farm up a set on my pally to do for the lulz. I wouldn’t use the set because it’s a bit too over the top for my taste.
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