I’m pretty sure people have been asking because they want to use them. The druids who want the forms at the very least probably don’t want those sitting in the barbershop. Same can be said for other unique stuff from the mage tower like flails and some of the best looking warglaives in the game, or the demo off hand which is part of the only off hand set in the game that is just a battle pet but equipment.
I for one want them and other things back generally to use them because a lot of old removed items looked good. In particular for the mage tower I have all 36 but some of my leveled characters can’t unlock the side colors which means if I want the demon hunter rated pvp glaive instead of just doing rbgs I have to go level the demon hunter I initially did the mage tower on(I used to level demon hunters rather then swap servers back when I cared enough to try mythic raiding and left most of my mains on the dead server my rl friends wanted me to play on) gear it for pvp then do that instead of using the dh I already have that is doing max level keys, its stupid.
If other people get it as well thats cool too it would make one of my favorite pieces of old content popular again since the current rewards are lacking in the sense that the mage tower made you play different specs instead of just doing the easy one for your class.
I did all 36 and have all class sets in the new one. It WAS faceroll at the end of legion I made a game of playing gear limbo to see how little farming I needed to do on most alts to clear it, and by antorus many classes had cheese strats that simplified things even further due to gear scaling. Some of the new ones had nerfs due to new class abilities in particular the healing challenge is a bit easier due to more cc options, but overall new tower is closer to how the tower was before antorus.
People never actually say what they want.
They never point out if its something they would use, or get bored of in a week.
They never talk about how it would impact them for the better.
Its always just generic “bring back everything” and then arguments with those who value exclusivity about value and challenges and stuff like that.
Not even a little bit, I distinctly remember doing the shadow challenge after a full expansion of not touching my priest reading a guide and one phasing the twins with drums battle pot and surrender to madness, and then doing similar strats for balance druid and mm hunter. Currently the twins does not end in two minutes or more like one minute accounting for rp like late game legion. I didn’t even know that god queen had an enrage timer until the mage tower came back because even in nighthold the dps check was never in that range and demo lock was one of the first ones I got. All the dps challenges were way easier at that point and some of the healing ones too since the bloodtotem one shots were scaled for 4 million hp and legion ended with health pools around 7 or 8 million.
The exceptions might be tanks and healers who got more cc and damage options compared to legion, but even then.
Or Fevirin is equating his heroic and a little bit of Mythic raid skill and his likely way above average DPS to that of an average player. IMO if an average player struggles with DPS requirements on the current tower they would have done the same in Legion even in Antorus gear.
When the mage tower first came out in legion i kept bashing my head against the keyboard and never came close to doing it.
At the end of legion, i went back with my higher ilvl and did it straight away.
I recently beat the mage tower for the first time since its return post legion and it took about an hour and a half of trying.
It was harder than the end of legion, easier than the start of legion.
Thats my personal experience at least.
I didnt have a 30 second victory that snoz is referring to haha
Its hard to say because in legion when you finished the mage tower you couldn’t go back in so you very rarely had people at 1000 ilvl going in and smashing it in sub a minute even though it was 100% possible. But at the same time I’m telling you I was doing mage tower fights where I clearly overgeared it on characters that at current patch would be the equivlalent for ilvl 420-430. If the difficulty of the mage tower lies in getting the gear for it then it is no different then legion.
Gonna see if I can find some relevant footage but its hard to find old mage tower stuff.
All the dps ones and tank one too were pretty quickly nerfed by damage. They all had sustained mechanics so the shorter the fight is the easier they get. Healer one and xylem force some mechanics due to phases however.
The records back then were around 2 minutes depending on the tower.
There’s zero chance that you’re completing the mage towers in 30 seconds in legion. Literally not possible. You weren’t going to be ignoring mechanics.
The reason that it’s easier now is because of how strong some classes tier is and that classes have been redesigned since legion.
Players no matter the skill level will always follow the path of least resistance. If farming some tier gear and then farming some old raids for gem slots makes the content trivial most will absolutely do it.
Yeah, this is why I’m not firmly against bringing the appearances back even as someone who also has all 36. What is difficult for me is not necessarily difficult for you and vice versa. I just don’t agree that there is an easy and fair solution that makes everyone happy (or majority of each side since you can never actually make everyone happy) and I perhaps feel a bit more obligated to protect others that did obtain them than to protect those that didn’t. Most of the solutions people propose as the “simple solution” really only appease the players that don’t have them.
Just found a shadow priest at ilvl 925(antorus mythic ilvl I think was around 970-980 for reference) The kill lasted 2:35 with the first 40 seconds being rp the next minute building up voidform stacks and the rest of it killing raest in a drums window. That doesn’t happen in new mage tower. Also for reference that is 3 phases skipped no hands no runes no enrage phase with the chasing add dead.
Arcane and unholy are traditionally the biggest cd classes I’m willing to concede that the mage tower is case by case easier or harder since apparently those classes can burst more though I have doubts that a ilvl 980 arcane mage couldn’t at least get a minute, but at the same time I will stand by my assertion that in general it was easier in antorus because the gear requirements to overgear were really tame even compared to the current collecting of socket gear and what nots.
Name of video is Shadow Priest Mage Tower 7.3.5 Surrender to Madness since I don’t believe I can link videos.
