Anduin became Nathan Drake.
-_- I meant he voiced Thrall and Varian. Thrall trying to give advice to Anduin can’t really be fun when they sound similar
Anduin has been through some ****. Lost his mother, his father, Bolvar (for a time anyway), Lady Prestor betrayed him and practically had his soul raped by the Jailer. I’d say the way the storywriters are handling his character, makes him more human.
He’s also like 50 years younger than them.
What you want is a grey haired older man leading, just be honest.
The only way that the Faction War can work is it the Factions themselves were optional for the character to join. Otherwise we get more Teldrassils, Taurajos, Undercities, and Theramores; moments which drag players into horrific conflict with no input of their own. Heroic PCs made into either idiots or complete monsters depending on the order they’re forced to follow. BFA Horde-side was awful to play on for me because of Teldrassil. The catharsis would have been killing Sylvanas but alas we don’t get nice things like that. At least the Council formed and that’ll hopefully help in the future.
If the factions were strictly PvP entities for the players to opt into, then sure, have them go at each others’ throats all day. I want nothing to do with it however, their war can be in the background of whatever grand quest I’m helping Azeroth as a whole with. I’ll stick with the neutral, all-accommodating Adventurer’s League myself. You go pointlessly mash buttons against those wearing different colors.
Ah yes, a pillar of intellect who isn’t a complete scumbag hellbent on making other peoples’ lives as hellish as possible. That said, it’s nice of you to just completely tear off your mask by linking dross like this. Now any doubts are completely dispelled.
Idk what thats suppose to mean by “tear of your mask”? Don’t pass judgement on me just cause of 1 youtube link. calm down
I thought this was a troll thread, but perhaps you are genuine in this delusion.
Perhaps speak to a therapist, you got some issues, Pal.
Nah I disagree, because the fault lied in execution not in the idea in itself. Like in everything, I’m not against attacking each other, but it shouldn’t be that one side always escalates conflict while other is portrayed as morally superior, if it was even out, it would be very fun. I’d love if Alliance was more proactive, if it would instigate conflict and have some internal drama for once.
Anduin blows and has been lame forever. Time for Turalyon to go Arthas on him and just take his crown. Light wills it. A Paladin on the throne of the Alliance is what we need.
So how many expansions do we have to wait for this?
I would be fine with him going through a struggle over the course of an expansion but this has already been going on for several expansions. It got old a long time ago.
The only thing that came to my mind when I saw Anduin was that he looks a lot like Stephen Amell from his arrow days lol.
Yeah, this is exactly what I think. This cinematic would have been better later in the expansion or for the part 2 or 3 of the trilogy. We needed to see his breakdown, not just the end result.
The finish line is the same, but the journey is radically different. I feel like Blizzard skipped to the last chapter of a book, and just kind of expect things to work out. But, tonally or thematically this wasn’t the best choice.
So, if you’re the grand overseer of an empire stretching across half the planet, perennially entangled in conflicts with the likes of the Lich King, Deathwing, Garrosh, the Legion, the Horde (again), and now the Jailer, chances are you’re not penciling in much—if any—personal leisure time. Not to mention the global issues like drought-induced famines or negotiating peace with the night elves. The camera angles are so snug that it’s impossible to discern if there are attendants, guards, or advisors hovering around.
But, let’s play along and pretend it’s just this mighty leader and Thrall. It’s one thing to entertain uncertainties silently, yet a whole other affair to crumble under their weight as visibly demonstrated. He’s already succumbed to doubt, and let’s face it, there’s no return from that abyss. Every decision he faces will be swamped with uncertainty, rendering him woefully ineffective. How on earth can he muster the strength to command a unit to sacrifice themselves in a war when he can’t even grasp the notion that he was naught but a mere puppet, coercively maneuvered into such actions against his own will by the jailer? His ability to inspire others towards self-sacrifice becomes a mockery when he himself is tangled in the web of personal doubt and internal chaos.
Unless, of course, this turmoil signifies that he’s aware of a part of himself that found satisfaction in executing the Jailer’s commands. Recognizing a potential embrace of such sinister directives only further disqualifies him from leading with the integrity and clarity necessary in such a position.
Moreover, his failure to acknowledge the doubt itself as a problem signifies a lack of the fundamental wisdom required for leadership in the first place.
and you are blocked
The Alliance has zero reason to start conflict, however. Especially now, after seeing just how futile the war actually is. We’ve all seen what happens in the afterlife, we know we pretty much all go to the same spots regardless of faction, so that knocks a ton of wind out of the sails of faction conflict. At this point, the only reason to start up the Fifth War is because of insane bloodlust. Alliance and Horde internal security is most likely extremely sensitive to any attempts at infiltration by extremists or agent provocateurs that would set their faction on the path to war.
There’s literally less-then-zero reason to go to war with each other. Spats between individuals? Maybe, but there is absolutely no reason for the Alliance and Horde war machines to move against each other.
If one experienced what he has gone through you would be full of anxiety and regrets and sadness the fact that he has killed while possessed and a whole bunch of stuff would leave anyone in a state. The fact he is showing emotion doesn’t make him a bad leader at all. It gives a depth to his character that I personally am loving seeing.
It’s fine for a leader to have some doubt in themselves; that’s what their friends, advisors, and other personal support structures are for. Plus, doubt helps keep a leader from rash decision-making. Garrosh had zero doubt within himself about what to do; that didn’t make him a good leader however, that made him a terrible tyrant incapable of self-reflection. Anduin’s doubt may cause moments of hesitation, but at least he’s shown he can shake it off with support from his friends. That already puts him miles above most other leaders we’ve had in Warcraft. Thrall also confides in his friends, especially Vol’jin and Cairne, but they’re gone now, so he’s feeling pretty isolated as well. It makes sense that Thrall and Anduin could connect like this.
There is expressing doubt and there is breaking down. One is compatible with leadership the other is not. Would you ever let yourself be lead in any important decision by the person we see in the cinematic.
Nope this isn’t the person to lead anyone let alone a nation and alliance. This is someone who needs to be heavily medicated and prevented from spending any unsupervised time around sharp objects in case he gets the bright idea for self deletion.
He’s having a breakdown for a very understandable reason, this is by no means unacceptable for a leader. Should he be leading in this state? No, his mental state is pretty fragile at the moment and you don’t want to put strain on it. This state is temporary however, he needs to work through it and lean on his support, but he will eventually get through it, and once he does, there’s no reason he can’t go back to a leadership position.
Sometimes a leader needs to withdraw from leadership for a while to handle personal issues, that’s why we have support structures and hierarchies. Having a singular point-of-failure that can’t ever afford to fail is how we wind up with Garroshes and Sylvanases.