Hey I feel for you, and hopefully these changes fix that idiocy.
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Depends on how this AVQ addon gets the information it gets.
…like right now when I’m in AV, the location reported to my guild isn’t “Alterac Valley” it’s “AV ### ( [elapsed time] )”. I’m hoping it gets the number from what ever system will no longer be sending the AV # to the dialog box prompt to join the BG.
If it still says it, then premades will just wait until someone in the group reports the number and they’ll all join that AV. 
If you truly believe that your winrate is due to the location of the horde starting cave, I pity you. The area of the map that you are complaining about meeting the horde at, where you have overwatch by a tower and support from lieutenants waddling about? How do you not see the advantage of that support, but rather see it as a downside? Good grief.
I call it clownish because of what it has done to the rest of your faction. Hate them personally? Not remotely. They have not effected my play in the slightest.
Yeah, there should be no retrievable information to show such things. Hopefully they have the ability/willingness to remove BG label indicators.
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They absolutely do.
This same thing happened in the past. Alliance believed it to be so, and then Blizz made the change I am suggesting.
We don’t have overwatch. Have you noticed there’s a massive hill between the bunker and where the engagement tends to happen?
Blizz could’ve put the thing in the game that actually WAS in the game at this point in time… Join as Group. Join as Party was not a vanilla feature. It would allow… Horde AND alliance to premade AV. Pugs would not get screwed in that fashion. Except the PUGs would still lose 100% of games.
You have whined endlessly about AV… and you know that an earlier version of AV is not happening. Which wouldn’t even fix your issues.
So what is your magical solution?
Save your keystrokes. They clearly do not see a tower giving covering fire and nearby lieutenants as benefits or an advantage at the start of the game.
He’d be fine with a change that poses no threat of ever happening - alternating sides, but has a world of excuses why a change that is imminent - moving horde cave back, shouldn’t happen. It’s clear what his agenda is.
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Or just mirror the map.
But but but… it’s more interesting when the sides are different…
I am talking directly west of that tower in the field of strife. Which is where you would meet horde heading north if you didn’t choose to veer west to avoid the initial rush.
What difference does it make if both factions have the same queueing option? Are you crying croc tears because it is going against your faux #nochanges sensibilities? I’d be more than happy to have join as group. But I will take 5-man party queue.
And you blame this on the starting cave location. Again, how pitiful.
Please cite where I have expressed an “issue” about premades effecting me. Your strawman building has gotten ridiculously absurd.
You mean SH Bunker? Which has no over all strategic value? And Can be completely bypassed?
Ah yes, archers spraying the opponents as you clash within bowrange, totally no strategic value there. 
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As I’ve stated previously, this is false. Keep saying it’s true, I’ll keep saying it’s false. You won’t get anywhere with me on this point until you accept the truth.
Croc tears? Really? Coming from the guy who literally says “Go to retail”.
Funny how in the past, Alliance boycotted over exactly this, and Blizz did exact as I’ve asked. Someone isn’t paying attention.
Why are you even riding near it? SH GY and Balinda can be taken without ever getting near the bunker.
Maybe you are just bad at AV?
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/849631.jpg
What? You are just flailing about incoherently at this point.
Reinforcements is why alliance boycotted AV in TBC. Try again.
Because it is the straightest line from point A to point B. Perhaps if alliance was not veering west to avoid PVP riding past SHB would be a less desireable option. But heaven forbid alliance should change their strategy of writing off that tower and Balinda so they can race south.
- Cries about a starting cave location that times engagement at a location where his side has archer and lieutenant support.
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Wait wait wait… so now it’s alliance that are avoiding pvp?
Pro tip, go fight the alliance.
Stop whining about lack of pvp if you refuse to engage in it. Alliance aren’t rushing to engage horde at SH bunker because it is a worthless position.
I pointed out your hypocrisy and you retort with “Literally incoherent”. At this point, you’re trolling.
If you don’t understand, you have taken the position that I should “go to retail” (when I don’t play retail, nice assumption pal), and then go directly to an ad hominen attack on my character calling me a liar. This is the type of thing people do when they can’t win the argument.
Keep it comin pal.