They released bgs early because players had already cleared MC and were complaining about lack of content. This was a diversion until BWL was released.
…and because Alliance were getting slaughtered on certain PVP realms.
Possibly, but their primary goal was finding something for players to do between MC and the release of BWL.
It’s quite relevant… it was the precedent they set 5 years ago when this exact same scenario was happening to Alliance. If anything, a change should have happened in retail, not in Classic.
I suppose it’s a good thing, no matter when it came, but hopefully you can understand why it tastes a bit sour.
that’s pve not pvp, short stack
hopefully these changes will mean more pvp and less zerg rush pve
thanks for listening and adapting blizz
They released the honour system literally months earlier than they did on Vanilla due to Horde whining about not having something to do- comparatively, BGs were put out a few weeks early, and unless you’re saying Horde hate BGs it benefited everyone looking for something to do.
The early release of the honour system though completely destroyed levelling on outnumbered servers, permanently destroying several of them and resulting in the BG queues Horde whine so much about- if BGs had been another month like in Vanilla to release, your queues would be 2 or 3x bigger now.
No it’s not. This is a DIFFERENT game. Retail forums are the other way.
I’m not at all. Whatever was in Vanilla is fair game, and as it should be - all the way up to Naxx. But when did honorless targets become not-lootable? When did players killed in their starting cave become honorless? Did they ever during Vanilla?
As I said, it’s not what has been changed, it’s that it was changed. It’s a Pandora’s Box now, which is exactly what they put in such enormous effort during development to avoid. We’ve already got people now asking for their personal favourite features based upon Blizzard obviously being open to change. It’s begun.
Are we just picking whatever fits our narrative now? Is this game based on 1.12 or is it whatever Blizzard wants it to be as long as it was there, at any point, during Vanilla?
These are changes. There’s no other way around it.
Museum piece… rofl.
That’s some interesting revisionism there. Only Horde players, huh? That’s not I remember it.
Actually, BGs came out at least a month early.
For you people yelling about “nochanges”, keep in mind that AV was never the main way to grind honor for rank in vanilla. Rankers went WSG/AB because AV had tougher NPCs that prevented a quick rush game.
With Blizzard allowing a super nerfed version of AV to be released like this, they themselves have made the biggest change of them all.
Well that ruins late night AV for Oceania. Thanks guys.
That’s what #nochanges originally meant.
glad I quite Classic. what a joke. no changes. LUL!
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When BGs released horde queue times where 2-3m. I know I sat and leveled it in 3 days to exalted 18h just on my 3rd day alone. The only reason that Horde queue times went up is because Alliance members only interested in a cheap 100% mount or a few of the purple gear got what they needed and decided not to step in them anymore.
After I grinded out my Horde FwC reputation 999/1000 I went to WsG where queues where still 3-4m and after facing 3 straight alliance pugs as a solo pugged quit PvPing all together. Wasn’t until 3 weeks ago I started to PvP again and the queue where now 30+ minutes on average. I’ve put up with that, the pre-made and the true alliance pugs that faced off against horde pugs. This issue may or may not help the situation, but pre-made 5 man teams will be good for the horde and breaking up alliance pre-made teams down to 5 man will help the pug alliance to a point it could now go 50/50 which is what most alliance and horde want that face these cherry picked pre-made.
Your lack of understanding and insight into this topic is unsurprising. All the best!
Good luck!
I’m trying to tell you it makes no sense to bring retail into this discussion. We are discussing CLASSIC here.
Too late for me, i already quit playing. I’m sure it will be nice for the people that still play though, it’s really something that should have been addressed immediately but whatever.