Systemlands strikes again!
As someone who is a little more passionate than the usual player for Alterac Valley, I can safely say I am no longer doing content that I enjoy because the current iteration is not fun. There is nothing fun about an 8 minute rush to the boss while engaging with very little PvP combat in an alleged battleground.
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Aww man. I remember when AV lasted the whole weekend. You fight for the night. back and forth and walk out with levels and tons of honor.
Now, you sneeze and itâs over. Last time I played, which was in BfA, I didnât even finish taking the mine before it was done.
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Right. And Iâm saying that honor rewards should be standardized based on time played being the driving favor instead of wins and losses. So if you spend an hour in a single AV, your rewards- give or take maybe 5%- are identical to if youâd spent an hour playing six 10 minute WSG matches.
We already have ranked battlegrounds and arenas and world pvp so the notion that we still need to incentivize people to win random battlegrounds is silly and detrimental- people should be encouraged to test unorthodox builds and strategies in it, itâs why we have it! If anything, the guy who wants to end the game as quickly as possible should get a finger wagging from his team because they donât want to sit around in another queue.
I get the sentiment, but I also like the idea of it being a faction v faction pve race.
Is that the point of the bg though, Iâm not entirely against a faction vs faction pve race existing it can in certain instances be fun but alterac valley should not be that bg.
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I literally came to the forums to complain about how sad AV is right now. Thereâs zero fighting happening. The game is just mounting and running. Everyone keeps saying âwait for 2 towers to capâ, but that doesnât even happen sometimes. Itâs an absolute joke of a battleground and itâs sad because it was one of my favorites.
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IMO a 6v6 in a two way M+ dungeon setup would be ideal for that, AV really only shines in a turtle.
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AV has become purely PVE race to the end to cap two towers and a GY, then wait a couple mins and kill a âbossâ that dies in 20 sec.
Please fix this.
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Does Oorton still play AV?
IDK if I like or hate fast AV. Itâs nice having a shot at getting the daily win done in under 10 minutes, but it also takes a lot of the magic out of the map.
If only there were a way for people to be able to force turtles, so that some games could go quick and others could turn into those fun wars of attrition and back-capping.
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So they could make another BG with that specifically in mind.
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The reason the daily reward is larger for epic battlegrounds is that theyâre supposed to last longer, though. Right now AV is over before a single match of Warsong Gulch!
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AV is always a zerg early in an expansion since the NPCs are always weak early on. This isnât new to Shadowlands.
Iâm afraid you have it the wrong way around.
NPCs are normally very strong at the start of expansions because no one has gear. They get weaker as the expansions progress and players get more gear, unless Blizzard intervenes.
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Hmmmm. I could perhaps be remembering the end of Legion and not the beginning of BfA. I didnât play the end of BfA so I could have it mixed up.
So after seeing this thread: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/av-hotfix/751945
I jumped in thinking maybe the madness had come to an end. I was wrong.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoRXKjHXEAAvaj0?format=png&name=360x360
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ya AV has turned into a race since you only need 2 towers, you need to buff the finale boss so you need to get 4 towers again, most come to PvP, screw the PvE Dbags
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Who knew that in a BG designed around killing an NPC, people would rush to achieve killing said NPC. This is why I had the 40 mans blacklisted for the longest time, if I queue up to PvP I want to PvP - not PvE some boss down.
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I am so frustrated with Alterac Valley. You are right. Literally the most pointless battleground in the game right now.
There is almost no PvP. Everyone runs past each other in the middle and the only time there are any skirmishes itâs with one or two ppl trying to back cap.
It is a pale wasted spectre of itâs former self (and I mean the former self from last year).
Gone are the days of killing Belinda.
Gone are the days of killing the other faction.
There is no honor or glory in this BG.
It is boring⌠I didnât even see an enemy the whole match.
This used to be one of my favorites⌠Probably my favorite time was when they first swapped it so there was a kill limit reducing the game from all day to only an hour or three.
for an Epic BG 45 minutes is fine. 30 minutes is getting a little short, but literally 4 to 8 minutes? My clothies not getting 1 shot by Van when I mess up and aggro him?
I cringe whenever this pops in queue. The ONLY good thing about it is that itâs over quick so I can requeue hoping for a better one.
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Do the NPCs need time to gear up in raids or something?
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