They aren’t making a consistent effort to get multiple 5man teams of rankers in though. And they are massively hampered from doing so even if they tried by the que time
The idea that the horde doesnt have a map imbalance favoriting them is so ludicrous that anybody seriously believing this is either trolling or delusional at this point. Why?
How in the world can a 95% or higher win rate possibly be a thing here? Do you realize how statistically impossible this is? When 2 other bgs exist which has nothing close to such a disparity, are you really so dumb to think this is strictly due to quality of play? When you have such a large sample of players playing both factions you actually seriously believe that a ratio like this is even possible? Christ take a course on statistics please.
And even if you dont care about that, let’s just think about this taking alliance and horde both out of the equation. Do you really think that if we simply looked at the mechanics and positions ofgraveyards/caves/distance and time to travel/chokepoints, that any neutral 3rd party observer would think that 1 side isnt so completely favored than the other side? You have had the math laid out multiple times, things which cannot he refuted at all and not speculative, yet even knowing this, you would still spew the same nonsense that’s it’s the players fault and nothing else? Jesus christ.
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Might go above a 10% win rate during AV weekends. Then back to 1-2% after.
50 matches 3 wins 
“Math” that ignores benefits that the alliance have but do not capitalize on.
Almost as if there is a concerted effort to be as defeatist as possible, and drag the rest of the faction down?
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Guy posted 0-27. I’m a dumb truck driver so my math is bad, but is that 40%??
Another guy posted that he was 3-30, is that 40%?
Person just above said they went 3-47, is that 40%??
I think your numbers are made up?
Alliance dominating AV weekend!!
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Whether you think something ignores or not is irrelevant as to whether what was specifically stated is correct or not.
Do you agree or disagree that the Horde cave Res 20 at a time and is closer to IBGY and takes less time to get to than our Cave to SHGY is? Do you believe the math there is wrong? Yes or no?
But for the sake of it, please tell me what variables are us Alliance ignoring in this equation which somehow equal to the opposite direction of Horde Map advantages?
And to your statement about Alliance Motivations. Ah yes, 95% or more loss record is clearly majorly due to defeatist attitudes. Out of all the millions of players, mixed and matched time and time again, everytime the Alliance is in AV, this defeatist attitude overwrites any and all horde imbalances. Nobody on Alliance ever tries in comparison to the Horde who never afks, never has bad strategies, never makes wrong decisions.
Absolutely god damn ridiculous.
And even if, EVEN IF, I were to attempt to give that argument any lick of validity, how could these same exact players, who play WSG and AB, not encounter this overwhelming defeat? How come these exact same players, somehow magically start to gain Chad Motivation levels and a nice 50 50 win/loss ratio? What possible explanation could you have to this disparity between the same batch of players?
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Like it or not:
IB to our cave = SP to your cave
SHGY = FWGY
Your bridge choke >>>>>>>>>>>>Our pitiful ramp with cover for attackers
You can recall and disrupt attempted base GY caps IMMEDIATELY, while horde have to travel across the base to get to the flag from the recall spot
Don’t talk to me about math when you blatantly misrepresent the data involved.
How many times does it have to be pointed out before it gets through to you, that they are NOT the same players, for obvious reasons that have been explained ad nauseum.
You are trying really hard to appear bright, but you are failing abysmally.
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No, pretending that after 15 years of historical win rates of alliance on official as well as PSs, suddenly horde became OP and the map was suddenly broken? THAT is what is ridiculous.
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I noticed how you still didnt acknowledge the math question yet. Do you or do you not agree that your cave allows you to reinforce IB GY to a faster and more efficient degree compared to our cave and SH GY? Yes or no?
Also no. IB GY to your cave is not remotely close to SP to our Cave. Our first objective is right next to your cave, your first objective is NOT next to our cave. These are different. IBGY to your cave is not comparable to SPGY to our cave. They literally arent even the same objectives mirrored, how can they be the same?
Our bridge choke doesnt mean a god damn thing in comparison to not at all being able to get pass SH GY which if we are ever north we lose the game. Ideally in a scenario where both of our squads start right in front of each of our bases best choke spot, and then the game just because a reinforcement battle 40 against 40, with both sides sending down their strongest slows/aoes, etc. You might have a point. But by the time the horde get to our base its over. The momentum from your map imbalance has already lifted you past no return. Just like when we get to your RHGY, and you guys turtle, you inevitably are overrun, even though your base has some decent above ground rain fire aoe type places. When the battle gets to the other sides bases, most of the time the attacking side is going to win.
Yes because when we recall we totally have come back from the brink of defeat just to defeat you guys amiright? Bullsh*t
The only one misrepresenting anything is you here, with you once again refusing to answer the question.
Right, because the people who play AV, are NOT playing WSG and AB, every single one of them is only playing AV. Ridiculous. Absolutely 100% Ridiculous.
You seriously think, that people who que for AV, who constantly lose, dont actual play AB and WSG? How god damn stupid are you?
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Ah yes the 15 years ago with people who didnt know any strategies worth a damn, and with horde who didnt bother using the same tactic of defense at all cost as they do today.
Nobody says the horde is OP, to be frank, they actually suck, which is why they need the imbalances to even have a chance.
Keep on shilling for favoritism because you know for a fact if it was taken away your precious winrate would plummet.
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Don’t let the 1550 rated player bring you down.
He’s sticking up for AV because he finally found something he thinks he’s good at, and if he finds out it was actually the map carrying him to victory his ego couldn’t handle it.
The honor is too good especially if you go in with some PvP buddies. I won a lot of AV’s this past weekend… not sure on the ratio… but even a lot of the ones we lost, we were able to get into the horde base and destroy bunkers.
I PvP a lot and it is quite clear that the high rankers do AV during AV weekend. Players that actually PvP and try to win, are geared, and know their class. Experience is a huge determination on who wins.
Even still, some matches I was in were the same old same old. Players with poverty mounts, under geared, and tons of arguing on what was the best strat… oh and the AFK’ers particularly love AV weekend.
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Sounds like the solution to AV is to just make the AV weekend bonus permanent 
That + removing respawns at the start locations would probably make a pretty dramatic difference in players joining.
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0-15 in AV this weekend. Alliance never even held IBGY for more than 30 seconds and most of the games we never even made it to there. One game had 10 druids and we killed like 5 LT’s. Horde finally keeping an eye on points and if they see 1 LT dead they send a 15 pack hit squad to go find the stealthers. They could have Dun Baldar locked down and still send back 15ish if a group tries to cap a tower at the end of the game.
Arguing with Horde about balance after over half of a year of a 99/1 slant is completely pointless. They are unable to comprehend any arguments you have to offer. Please stop. You won’t convince them.
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I used to be one of those people who would be absolutely obnoxious in /bg chat whenever there was an IBGY rush, calling everyone involved mouth breathers, etc. I was wrong.
Turns out that rushing IBGY actually is the best chance of winning, as sad as that is. If alliance tries taking SFGY first, all the alliance players who die at SFGY respawn at AS and are taken out of the fight for 2.5 to 3 minutes while they wait on rez timer and run all the way back. Anywhere west of the bottom of the east facing ramp to SFGY, we respawn back at AS. Haven’t figured out the southern boundary to that yet, or the general line where respawns flip from AS to SH. Imagine if horde players who died anywhere close to SFGY before it hard caps respawned back at RH.
If we have a massive reinforcement disadvantage trying to take SFGY and we have a massive reinforcement disadvantage trying to take IBGY, it makes more sense to try to get IBGY because we have to take it eventually anyway. If we are better enough than the horde team that we can take (and hold) SFGY with the reinforcement disadvantage we have, we are better enough to take and hold IBGY. Usually that is not the case, of course, which is why most games are rush IBGY -> lose SHGY almost instantly -> get wiped before IBGY hard caps -> ??? -> profit.
Really, the best option to win is rush IBGY with every single person and hope the horde group either is really, really bad or are just willing to move north from SHGY and race.
Anyone with typing skills can EASILY call out in RW for example if u have bs or lm what is going on and get a decent idea on numbers. Most games flow is INSANELY obvious … go where the majority aren’t at the furthest point making harder to defend. I mean come on its not rocket science.
Uhhhhh you know we’re talking about AV right? Not AB.