Alliance, stop kicking Shaman Tanks

I’m not trying to be toxic, and I’ve enjoyed a lot of your other posts Kumasama. Not snarking at you or anything.

I would just never call what I’ve seen in the videos tanking. YMMV of course. I mean they’re clearing the dungeon, and they’ve obviously put a lot of thought into their strat which is cool. I just wouldn’t consider that a tanked run anymore than my improved LotP makes me a healer.

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I resto tanked ud strat on this toon in classic before AQ with my guild, it was a good thing we had two mages.

Yes, I’m sure Foucault and Derrida were highly focused on the rigors of Tanking in World of Warcraft when they were constructing their philosophical ideals.

It’ll be discussed at colleges throughout the country.

I said what I said…

Also you missed the point by miles because you’re in the middle of another hissy fit.

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I want to talk about what drove Foucault’s philosophy in his real life so much but that’s nothing but a one way ticket to ban town lol

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Didn’t Derrida and Sartre all sign the same petition as Foucault requesting the same change in the law?

/shudder

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You made a point? I thought you were just off on one of your rants.

I understand you don’t think Shamans can tank. I think everyone who has every seen you post anything on any Shaman Tank threads understands that.

I disagree with you. A lot of others disagree with you.

All that’s left is for you do learn how to deal with that reality.

Oh, I’d love to get into how both technological and economic forces have worked to undermine the current “nation-state” and that we are, truly, moving out the modern arrangement of nations and empires into something entirely different.

When you’re looking at fashions and trends today, so much of it has become politically-oriented. It’s mind-boggling to me that so many folks seem to think that’s normal human behavior.

Like I said, post-moderns are dumb.

Someone took Foucault seriously in a way that Foucault himself would chastise… oof.

This reminds me of a Gary Larson cartoon where a guy raises his hand and tells his teacher, “May I be excused? My brain is full.”

Your equating me with a philosophical movement rather than as a person pretty much confirms a lot of how Foucault said the post-modern world would work.

I’m not just some individual to you now, I’ve become a philosophy.

If you’re going to go with a French thinker from that time, go with Sartre who at least thought through his position more deeply than Foucault’s self-satisfying nonsense. The entire conceit of only being able to talk about things but not the things themselves is lunatic self-destruction, which is why Kant was so insistent on not taking the logic of Hume to the end of the chain, and why Nietzsche eagerly ignored that.

No, I called you a post-modern and called that dumb. Because it is, and thinking like one is just brain damaging.

Eventually the Warden Theorists started to attract the attention of experts in the discipline into which they had strayed. Ciderhelm looked at their EH and found it littered with elementary errors. Caperfin, for example, repeatedly confused tanking as a whole with the signifier and so have his many hundreds of thousands of obedient disciples. This error is one of the cornerstones of his work. Other tanks were amused by the Caperfinians’ ignorance of tanking outside of normal five mans — this ignorance perhaps strengthening their confidence in their ability to pronounce on the whole of tanking. Forum historians have examined Bonerover’s egregious versions of the history of tanking and have discovered that even the miniscule and eccentric empirical base upon which his broad sweep theories are poised is grossly at variance with the documentary evidence. His periodisation — crucial to his vision of tanking history and of wardens as a recent invention’ would, to take one small example, require Kungen to have lived sometime after he had died, in order to fit into the right episteme. Indeed, one does not have to be much of a scholar to demonstrate that Bonerover’s epistemes and the so-called epistemologiques separating them the central notions of the Warden that brought him his forum fame correspond in no way to any historical reality. (One or two people did try to point this out to him on the forums but you can’t tell a Caperfinian anything.) At any rate, it is striking how frequently warden theorists, when their theories become accidentally contaminated with facts, get the facts wrong so frequently that this cannot be fully accounted for by the party line contempt for the empirical’ but must be the result of a determined endeavour to bend facts to theories. (It is interesting how contempt for facts goes hand in hand with a propensity for fabricating evidence. Perhaps there is a kind of consistency in combining hatred of truth and the very notion of truth with a love of error.) Some of the most detailed critical examinations have been carried out on warden theorists’ misrepresentations of theorycraft. Inspection of what Caperfinians say about major figures such as Kungen, Alamo the Druid, and that shaman guy way back in the day who made that funny post talking about his staff, in support of their own theories — in which, not infrequently, isolated comments by major figures have been made to stand for huge chunks of `tanking thought’ — have revealed an extraordinary mixture of genuine misunderstanding and strategic misquotation.

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I genuinely want to buy you a beer.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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It’s dumb, is it?

Right, you equated someone who wants to associate a colloquial term to fantasy game mechanic to some grander philosophical ideal.

There are over 7 billion people in the world and you want to convert one of them to your particular brand of philosophy simply because they disagree with your perimeters on what a fantasy role-playing game has determined you can or cannot do with the mechanics of the game.

Is that normal human behavior?

Holy crap…

Enigmuh, I know you cribbed this and I know where you cribbed this from but it is unbelievably fun and I’m forevermore snagging quotes from it as needed.

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“This guy disagrees with me about the mechanics of how a 15-year-old fantasy RPG game works. Time to talk to convince him that his entire worldview is wrong!”

Brilliant!

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Well, he is a lawyer

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I’d mock a post-modernist in a simple discussion about whether something is a cat or a dog if I was given the chance, they deserve no quarter, ever.

You would know!!

I’m an independent paralegal sir. I still have a soul lol

In my state they let guys like me get away with helping people as long as we pay our fees and don’t overstep too much. Before I did this I was even more useless…I was a quality engineer and wrote reports and tool studies that no one ever read or cared about lol

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Oh has he said as much in the past?

I forgot that you had to name your profession here as a matter of proving you had some kind of credentials for having said anything.

In that case, I brew and sell beer for a living.