Incoming horde whining and blizzard adding hotfix…shocker.
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Horde started doing this to alliance first on our server. Most old timers knew about this already but since this tribalism you’re so fragrantly displaying is ramping up absurdly it was only a matter of time before this came back. It’s a little harder for horde because the hiding spot isn’t as easy to get to. Honestly anyone can get on top of orgrimmar so it’s not very impressive.
since you missed the point, the comment they made was the point out that only when it comes to horde complaints do they actually start fixing things, not that ONLY one side is doing it.
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World buffs should be removed outright upon entering a raid.
This meta leads to some of the worst experiences I’ve ever come across in WoW.
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My rogues 47, can’t wait to be in org.
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That is great.
Before sapping would flag you, I would sap people in Gadgetzan so they couldn’t leave, or sap at faction dominated summoning stones to prevent summoning.
I was a bad person back then.
If blizz didn’t purge the forums every 10 seconds you’d see complaints from 2005 with alliance and horde complaining about this. If blizz fixes this it won’t be “because the horde are whining about it now.”
The video shouldn’t have been posted here yeah.
My problem is he’s safe spotting and wall jumping to get there and that’s not allowed.
I have no idea what’s going on with the video and the flares and AOEs because it looked like those were being used, it looks like spell batching allowed him to still sap.
I’m glad my server fights back against dispelling and this kind of crap, this kind of thing is basically what killed Incendius and caused all the horde to transfer off, and that is why it matters on my server since they came here. I don’t really consider it World PVP.
He’s also safe spotting, which isn’t allowed. You can do that on a Rogue in SW but it’s not required.
… Gonna be my last reply because I refuse to get a hernia over this.
“What’s disruptive and what’s gameplay” – yes, this is the basic thing, isn’t it? Let me correct you: Watching an NPC do something is not, in fact, gameplay. Because it does not involve player activity; it is the activity of an NPC. You are watching a very tiny movie, for about 15 seconds. However, walking my character into BRM is gameplay. If anyone kills me, it is disrupting my gameplay. This is a basic derivation from basic word definitions.
“Getting killed by another player is gameplay” – yes, but we’re discussing what TYPES of gameplay are disruptive. “Disruptive” is not a separate category to gameplay, despite your attempts at claiming the opposite. It is an adjective laid atop gameplay, which is a noun. If using “disruption” instead, that is a type or subcategory of gameplay.
Finally, even if I do succeed at making you understand the parts of speech and the basic definition of words, this still isn’t touching on the discussion of whether disruptive gameplay is even bad, or to what extent a disruption must go before it’s considered bad. From the examples I’ve seen, Blizzard has a somewhat fluid stance on this, and seems to take the opinion that unless players are being blocked from playing their characters for extended amounts of time, it is not disruption that requires intervention from them. Missing an RP text box (that repeats many times per week, for anyone that wishes to see it) would not fall under that.
It doesn’t just stop the RP textbox. It prevents the buff from going out and puts it on cooldown so you can’t use a second head.
I guess I did since what you said is completely wrong and stupid.
But, I guess if you’re one of the ones crying that we can’t premade anymore it makes sense.
Which is the best part of it and why its hilarious.
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Yeah I fully believe dispellers and sappers should be out in full force. It’s for sure one way to end world buffing.
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You know… the easy way to fix this would be for blizzard to disable those NPCs for PvP …Hmmm but then you wouldn’t be able to reset… what a pickle…
I just realized that all these people doing this using a rogue are doing it wrong.
Alliance should be chilling dead or logged out on an alt watching and waiting for the pop strike using Repentance. It’s basically sap that’s ranged. They can march right past all the hunter flares and traps safely inside a bubble and Rep the target or HoJ on demand.
You can. But your timing has to be much better since:
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Repentence and Hoj are both magic and can be dispelled by priests or warlock felhunter.
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They are shorter duration than Sap
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They are spells so suffer much higher miss rates than sap, which the rogue should have hit% for to make it almost never miss.
That said, being able to bubble dance while you do it is freaking hilarious and probably lands the overwhelming majority of the time. Plus the goblin rocket and some other engineering devices would work too.
Get over yourself. There’s nothing profound about your take on this, and you’re splitting hairs and running off on semantic journeys to hide that this gameplay is very obvious disruptive, and that the appeal of it is that it’s very obviously disruptive.
It’s does not offer any in game benefit to the player.
It only detracts from another player’s experience.
It necessarily disrupts scripted events within the game to accomplish this.
Nobody ever said this. Gameplay was being described as disruptive. Whatever argument you’ve constructed in your head to battle against isn’t actually happening IRL.
True, but it’s a question of degree. Does it cross the line into something that should be dealt with at all? My perspective is no, unless you want to visit the entire world buff exploiting nonsense going on which I find highly offensive, immersion breaking and disruptive. To me, the mind control and kill one of the high ranking officials of your own faction is incredibly concerning from a gameplay perspective, especially on RP servers.
Preventing a buff from going out has no meaningful effect on anyone’s ability to complete actual game content, so, it isn’t really disruptive to the extent that it needs attention.
At the end of the day, PVP is all about conflict with opposing players. There is a grey area in there where you’re definitely gonna get conflicting opinions on what should and shouldn’t be allowed. This is one of those times.
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On a pvp server i think this is totally fine, on a pve server where people are there specifically to avoid wpvp it seems like an issue.
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