It was. Now it’s network effect. Everyone is there so that’s where everyone goes.
No. Broken and the Naga for the Alliance. This is an Alliance-push topic, the Horde can do with some cheap races for once. The Alliance has no significant reason to be played. We can have desirable races again for the Horde after they got Leapergnomes and Gilgoblins while we are giving the Alliance two top tier races.
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Have you seen the Alliance Naga concept from mmo champ?, the Nazdorei? It looks friggen amazing!
I don’t know if it’s against TOS to link mmo-champ stuff but just Google Nazdorei!!
Very in-depth, great customisations, two forms like Worgen style to make mounting and all possible. Literally all the work is done for Blizzard besides just creating them in game.
Edit: Also wasn’t Sethrak up for being an Allied Race?, I remember back in BFA they datamined the Heart of Azeroth animations for Vulpera and Sethrak, it seems like they were supposed to be released side by side but sort of gave up on Sethrak entirely and just gave Vulpera to Horde.
I know the topic from posting there.
I really like the concept and it would please the beautiful hourglass figure players as well in their endless search for perfection.
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We don’t need another elf.
We either get actual Naga, or we get Mermaids as an allied race. We don’t need another elf. Every single type of elf except dark ranger is now covered by subraces.
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Also, for the record, the “cheap” races the Horde can get while they fix the Alliance are things they’re actually requesting. Not the pretty elf players, but the old-school Horde players.
Forest Trolls, Gilgoblins, Ogres. Mok’nathal, ect ect.
They’re all niches that have been requested, or should already be playable, and would have their audience. They’re just as niche as mechagnomes and KT’s, which is the point.
People act like people saying the Alliance needs hype races is the end of the world for Horde requests, when the Horde’s still waiting on some of their most basic stuff.
They’ve stretched the more and made up stuff to send stuff that made barely any sense at the time to the Horde (Nightborne, Blood Elves, and literally making up Vulpera), so it’s not a huge deal if they do the same to put some unique concepts on Alliance.
Naga can absolutely become a core race for the Alliance through a combination of the Void Elves and Kaldorei working together now that N’zoth is “gone”.
I’d also stretch that exact same concept to just tossing San’layn as a subrace to Void Elves, since they have 90% of the kit anyways. Finalize it, and have them join because they heard Umbric has some sort of connection to Dar’khan. (You know, adding an eye colour, and maybe an ear shape. I’ve already made 3 look-alikes on retail, just without red eyes.)
Arrakoa and Jinyu (with Hozen counterpart) should probably come before Broken too. We’re trying to fix a population and morale imbalance. Adding some hyper-niche thing that most people would never want to touch isn’t the answer.
People requesting Broken aren’t helping. Same with Vrykul. Those aren’t going to cause people to transfer; fixing the male human model and adding those aesthetics would be a better use of their resources than clogging another race slot with another human.
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No this is a whining unfair thread about asking more then a already broken faction. Its wouldn’t be fair for the horde to get cheap race while we get cool race just after a expansion where we kept kicking their but and 2 other expansion where our leader are doing everything while the horde aren’t doing anything…
Blizzard did the horde dirty enough lately, i think that we could give them a break already. As i already said, we need to give them a powerfull race like sethrak while giving something weak to the alliance like leapergnome. They are gnome, they are weak and they are like 5 of them so it would help for the power balance between the 2 faction.
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Sethrak were never meant to be a allied race even less a alliance allied race. Its just many of our player that decided that LF drainei and void elf were somehow worst than HM and NB so they decided that they needed sethrak for the alliance even if the sethrak are way closer to the horde…
How do NB don’t make sense in the horde? The blood elf are their closest family and helped them. Why would they chose us with the mage hater elf while they could be with the faction with the mage lover elf?
We already stole them blood elf by giving VE the same option. We don’t need to stole them more.
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I am not going to disagree with that because yeah it is what started this mess but it hasn’t really been about racials since MoP. A lot of horde racials got blanket nerfed going into WoD and Human EMFH was broken enough it actually got quite a few horde PvPers to swap alliance for it. Same with the Night Elf Shadowmeld Feral shenanigans at the time as well.
The biggest outlier for Horde racials in the raiding scene currently is just Goblin Rocket Jump and all Blizzard would have to do to resolve this is just give it to an alliance race. Before people come here and mention VE blink the problem with that is it is very unreliable and can not be used to the same degree as Goblin Rocket Jump can.
Simply just deleting all racials would not solve the faction balance at least not short term. Maybe in 10 years enough people will slowly bleed over to alliance but the raid scene needs something to solve it now and that is only going to be achieved with cross faction play which has a very high chance of coming in 10.0.
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Imagine if in a major or pre-patch they’d release 3 races per faction.
Arakkoa, Jinyu(with Ankoan customization too), and Furbolgs ( I would say Naga but I’m not too keen on them personally.)
Horde would get Gilgoblins, Ogres, and Hozen.
All races that’s part of the factions already as well (outside Arakkoa but they hate orcs and ogres, also unsure about gilgoblins official status.)
I would also love it if they added free faction transfers to the faction with fewer players. Something similar to warmode that if there’s a large enough % difference then it would trigger. Lowering the barrier to play the other less played faction is only good. It would have to be region side though, as otherwise, it would kill the OCE Horde even more if they just pulled global stats.
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the point would be to show that their group has expanded beyond just void elves. We are not talking about the current situation. We are talking about the situation as it can be.
I’m just going off the huge Datamine that happened during on of the .5 patches in BFA, where Blizzard had intentionally given Vulpera and Sethrak the unique player only Heart of Azeroth animation, what Blizzard thinks/does and reasons is up to them. It did seem they were considering it.
I remember specifically that’s when the huge theory’s of Vulpera and Sethrak being the next lined up Allied Races, even back then people argued as if they were the champions of all that’s righteous that Vulpera would never be playable.
I’m not saying they were meant to be released, but when looking back at it now considering they went through with Vulpera it may have been a thought for them.
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you know with how much customizability brokers have, it’s a possibility.
and it’s not like “armor pieces can’t transmog” prevented them from making trashgnomes playable.
It would totally depend on if a hall monitor came to this thread and reported it, and then if a blizzard moderator agreed. 100% subjective.
Either way… https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2471956-Nazdorei-(Playable-Naga-Concept)
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Didn’t mechagnome racials get nerfed because the high-tier guilds threatened to leave for Alliance in their secret forums?
I don’t see this happening.
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I doubt that had anything to do with it… our racials were really op at first. It was remarkably noticeable to me even… and I am not a min maxer by any stretch.
Eh, I don’t know. An Orc monk can push out another 1 to 2k dps over an Alliance Monk in some dungeons. 1-2k dps is a huge deal in a 20+.
A good place to go to see the strongest racials per class is blood mallet.
Here’s your example of windwalker options. Orc is indeed #1. But it’s barely 100 dps from worst to best. I’m of the argument racials may have started the exodus, but it’s not the current cause.
actually the Pearlfin would have been better
ridiculous
The main reason Zandi is popular is that someone can finally play a troll without having radical hunchback scoliosis, quite simply they look better standing up, especially with the glow druid caster form. I know many people (who play trolls) that race changed just so that they could stand up. If they came out with a new undead race tomorrow that was stand-up tons of people would flock to that too.
Vulpera are cute furry things, horde has an extreme shortage of that and lots of people wanted that kind of option. Instant popularity. If alliance got some kind of actually straightforward cool-ish new beastly monstery option it would be similarly instantly popular.
As for void and light-up draenai being short swings on the creation side, true. Not sure what to say about that. The racials are good and they are somewhat popular though. Mech-gnomes are weird. But that’s just blizzard art, tongue-in-cheek. Look at goblins, they match up to that with better racials.
About the only true thing I can find in here is
spot on correct, no more elves. ever.
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