Alliance needs a slam dunk Allied Race

I know. Just look at the Void Elf storyline.

I ignored the part because I found it strange asking for evidence while you quoted the said proof. Just go to the wow wardrobe dresser and go through the animations. A few of them are based on the Pandaren. Either they took the animation rig (which needs to be compatible with the model) or the original model was a Pandaren rig which was overhauled completely. You cannot simply swap complex animation routes this easily otherwise.

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The most noticeable is the death animation. Anyways I am not sure why this is trying to be used to invalidate and argument?

Not at all
but the damage has been done. The final drop was when giving BE’s aoe dispel in a raid requireing aoe disples, and 90% of alliance mythic raid guilds ended up factionchanging to horde.

All damage has been done by Blizzard, its a ‘you’ problem that manage to interpret it any other way.

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We match now :wink:

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I did.

They’re not the same.

I also don’t see how you can spout a lie like that when the game director literally said the reason they took so long was because they were built from the ground up


You have the proof
 You don’t need to make up a lie.

See above.

The “argument” doesn’t need to be made for you to request a new race.

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What if alliance allied races don’t have a lot of uptake because alliance just don’t have many players?

Allow cross faction play and give us free faction change and I’ll go alliance.

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We Alliance should have gotten the Eredar Draenei and let them also be able to be Demon Hunters instead of the useles Lightforged Draenei.

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i have not read through all the posts here but if has not been said already: NAGA! the naga are a great race to have playable. an underwater starting zone, established lore, recently lost their old god sugar daddy, it’s perfect! so what if they can’t wear pants? who likes wearing pants anyway? though honestly i would prefer that they start neutral like the pandas.

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SL is about redemption, right? its not too late lol. Just about everyone is getting redeemed
whats one more.

Who said of invalidating the Kul Tiran model? It’s not completely new, they did recycle something from a race which should have been focused more the past expansions.

They are the same
 you will recognize this if you have played Pandaren before.

There is nothing to “lie” about it. They did recycle parts of it. What you see is the polygon model which is completely a new thing and has been likely rebuild from it but parts are still there. Similar to the Vulpera model which was the Goblin-one but extremely modified but for a few animations.

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Vash’jir (or whatever the name of that cursed place is) was one of the most unpopular places for players back in Cata. That’s why devs didn’t make Nazjatar an underwater place (as it was supposed to be in the lore). So anything to do with swimming, players hate it. I personally don’t mind it but when it comes to area attacks or something you have to click in the ground it doesn’t work well.

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yeah i understand why its so hated. but i totally disagree. i loved vash’jir so much. it was and is one of my favorite areas ever added to wow. even though it killed my old laptop. XD

hmm a fix for AOEs would be to always place AOE within a certain range of your depth unless you are near the ground. coordinates in a 3d area have a depth/altitude. might as well use it.

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Sitting here on my rocking chair as I get older still waiting for my WC3 High Elf Ranger, Mage and Paladins :spider_web: :spider_web: :spider_web: :spider_web:

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I am agreeing with you. I just don’t understand what the actual argument here is between you two? Are people sitting here trying to justify mechagnomes because KT have a newish rig? or is this some new form of trolling I don’t understand?

He wants to sell the KT-model as a brand new (which is somewhat correct but then again, not). It’s a point of view-debate similar to what was here first: The egg or the chicken.

I like the Ally allied races so far, but if i had the chance to choose I woud have something more unique in the place of the mecha gnomes, despite liking them I knew they woudn’t be popular the day I saw the datamined screeshots of them.

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Why a shaman though, make a monk, assuming the sethrak could be a monk. Isn’t monk still the fastest to level up thanks to the daily buff?

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I just don’t like it when people are given proof of a truth and doggedly keep to a lie they came up with without a reason. Feels like spite for blizzard honestly.

I went to college for computer sciences with a focus in video games.
I can tell that the animations are not being recycled here.

I also don’t really see why you all think Blizzard would lie about this? They literally told you it’s new. It’s why they took so damn long.

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I don’t think new races are going to save the Alliance now. It is the Horde’s world and Blizzard is okay with that.

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I agree that no one race will probably tip the scales.

Still, no reason folk can’t want something new for their faction.

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