It started with racials, but also just the general sentiment that Blizzard has vs. Alliance. There’s been at least 2 Blizzcons where Blizz devs mocked Alliance players. In one, an Alliance player asked if Blizzard could make a war cry that was as impactful as “For the Horde”, and the panel said ‘Have mercy!’ and ‘Not the face!’. Blizzard has since attempted to rectify this with ‘Stand as One’, but the attempt is very transparent.
Secondly they invited Corpsegrinder onto the stage at Blizzcon. Now, it’s really no secret where his loyalty lies in the game. That’s fine. They wanted to invite a super fan to Blizzcon. What was unnecessary was playing a the viral video of Corpsegrinder telling Alliance players to off themselves and calling them homophobic slurs. Even censored, that was purely a power move. “This is what we think of you”. You get that feeling a lot, that Blizzard actually doesn’t like you at all if you’re an Alliance player. No amount of Horde players whataboutisms can change the simple fact that you could never in your life imagine an alternate scenario where Blizzard invites someone famous who plays Alliance and says the same things about Horde. It’s a 0% chance.
This shift didn’t happen over night. It happened because of a lot of factors that drove younger and more hardcore players to play Horde and stream themselves playing Horde on Twitch. Most people who watch them will go Horde with them. This is something that has built up for years now. And Blizzard has definitely played a part in it by not making attractive racials for Alliance for hardcore players to play on live. Shadowmeld may be very powerful for M+, but only if you’re running tournament. There’s no reason to switch everyone to NE just for Shadowmeld on live.
I’m not a fan of the Alliance but, yeah, after mechagnomes they need something good. Blizz, if you’re still planning allied races, just swap whatever you had planned for the next release. Give Alliance the good one this time.
The Horde defeated Korthek and the Faithless and restored their loa, which is far more help than anything the Alliance did in those few minutes they were together. Like I said, the Alliance sethrak crowd is better off hoping that Blizzard introduces another group of sethrak in the future and we ally with them. A few would complain that it’s not the exact group they wanted like Horde players did when they got Mag’har from Draenor instead of Outland, but most people wouldn’t care.
Just gonna say Alliance are in desperate need of variety, I love Alliance and Horde, I main a Character on both sides but one thing Horde has over Alliance is variety and choices.
Alliance tends to fall in the “Vanilla” category of races, very traditional with a few exceptions of Worgen and Draenei, to be honest don’t really appeal to me at all, While Horde have a excellent choice of different varieties of all walks of life.
Alliance definitely could use a few more different choices, from reading this post Arrokoa or Sethrak would both be a great addition to the Alliance, different unique, personally I’d go the route of Sethrak with all their unique animations already in game.
I do hope next expansion starts to bring many requested races into the playable mix. I’m still waiting for my Ogres for Horde.
Edit: Broken from Legion would be awesome too, aslong as the race can be a Shaman I’m all for it .
No, we couldn’t. I want to roll my eyes at 100 mph every time someone suggests this. They interacted with the Alliance even less than the Devoted, and none of those interactions were positive. They have even less of a reason to join forces with the Alliance when they’re both barely aware of the other’s existence, and the Alliance most likely has no interest in cavorting with the shattered remnants of a heretical, deicidal empire. All we did was kill a few of their members and then bugger off back to Kul Tiras once our foothold was set up.
Like the Devoted, the Faithless were created primarily as the focus of one zone and then tossed away once that zone was over with. Neither group will see a resurgence unless Blizzard decides to give a crap about Vol’dun again.
statistically speaking if you’re playing a mechagnome for looks then you’re not going to like them, but if you’re playing them for their superior racials.
“If they did this one stupid thing, there’s a chance they could do this other stupid thing!!!”
Void elves were set up in advance by Alleria becoming one at the end of the Seat of the Triumvirate, and we weren’t hostile with the exiled blood elves and high elves before they joined the Alliance as void elves. There’s nothing to indicate that the Faithless will suddenly knock on the Alliance’s door and ask if they can be friends to take revenge on the Devoted and vulpera who have thrown their lot in with the Horde, mainly because the Alliance PC killing Faithless members and then leaving Vol’dun as soon as their foothold was set up does not logically flow into that.
Yeah its not about racials or looks anymore…too many high end players are on horde side, so people who want to join in the endgame content go there for the people, not the racials or aestethics.
Exactly yes. Anything you’ve posted afterwards is meaningless. Alleria joining the Alliance and being void infused doesn’t set up at all why in order to get them you have to grind rep with the Krokuul Broken or why Blood elves suddenly turned from their countrymen to study Void and then become mega loyal to the Alliance because Alleria saved them.
It’d be pretty easy to set up some sort of division between Sethrak and Horde for a variety of reasons to add them to the Alliance. You just don’t want snake people, and that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t be added.
All it takes is a questline to show this, it doesn’t have to be reliant on any Vol’dun lore.
I don’t think Sethrak are likely to be added to either faction, but if they were, I think the Alliance should get them.
It’s also fine if someone would be a little remiss if the Sethrak, who at the moment have all the reason to go Horde, went Alliance out of the blue.
It flies in the face of what we’ve yet seen.
That said I like a neutral Sethrak where the Devoted go Horde and the Remnants of the Faithless go Alliance.
Especially since it gives both sides a generally contrarian viewpoint race to what we already have per side.
The Horde getting a devout and less warlike honorable race (less Orc more Tauren vibes with strong religion).
And the Alliance gets a warlike revenge seeking host. (in fact the Faithless’ only reason to join is because they can’t stand alone against the Horde, otherwise they have little in common with the Alliance.)
In both cases they have a good reason to join.
The Devoted because the Horde saved them and the Faithless because they’d need the allies to continue to exist.
Actually, no. You still have to bring a good reasoning which cannot be explained from a game designer’s point of view. What you mistake here is the least resistance with consequential everlasting damage done to a system.
It’s the developer’s responsibility to jump in if there are problems. The players are not responsible for issues which occur as an effect, it’s theirs. If you truly believe this is the communities fault [first hand], then you are wrong. It’s a secondary issue, the community spiraled it out because the developers did not act upon it when they had the time to do it. Radomir also brought in some factors which truly happened. And if you want another one: They started to go against the alphabet and start to describe in the marketing the game as “Horde and Alliance” which is also a red flag.
More humans for the human faction?
Then why are you suggesting Fire Emblem sword fighters for the Alliance?
The “winner”-option will be four additional unique races for the Alliance and four recolors for the Horde (Gilgoblins, Leapergnomes, red orcs, Taunka) to even out what the Alliance experienced.
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