Alliance finally had a single advantage in a raid

Nothing should exploit a core mechanic of a boss fight. Vial and Stoneform were removing the bleed stacks, which breaks that fight.

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What about immunities then? The get used almost every raid tier?

Theres a difference between damage avoidance and removing a mechanic from a fight.

It’s what they deserve for gaming the system.

They could have changed it to another form of damage rather than show their hand as to the perceived Alliance nerf.

It should never have gotten to the point where a raid full of dwarfs would have a distinct advantage. Someone needs to open their eyes way sooner.

Having immunities on Mythic NZoth literally negated the need for the raid as a whole to soak insanity from the harvesters. This bypassed the need to as carefully watch and plan your neck uses as a raid.

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This… I really get sick and tired of some of this garbage that they do… A tooltip can read ‘all’ but yeah that isn’t how it works… Or it can be like stoneform where it matter of fact states ‘grants immunity to’… that tooltip doesn’t say ‘some’ or ‘kinda’.

All the more reasons why I strongly dislike this current crop of devs. and yes I main a dwarf.

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I also disagree with that. That shouldnt be allowed, which means Blizzard themselves should take a better look at their encounter design at the higher end.

That being said: that being in existence, doesnt make having everyone have access to the ability to negate a fight defendable either.

Just delete the alliance of the game and we can all go horde like the devs want.

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this is about gameplay not story

I disagree with your position as I think it would lead to stale encounters if you couldn’t fully utilize a classes toolkits. Already mobility is heavily favored in encounter design.

But none of this changes the idea that everyone had an ability to negate a core mechanic of a boss though.

Its not good design, encounter-wise or ability-wise.

yes we do

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/horde-bias-across-wow/705562/

notice all the pressed horde replies - instead of aknowledging their privilege they actively harass and supress the minority. disgusting behavior

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Would it matter if they just change it from a bleed into other type? Is not the first time we have debuff that are not dispellable.

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Explain how getting rid of the Kyrian exploit is Horde bias when both factions had it. Ill wait.

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nerf kyrian thing and leave stone form untouched? is it too hard? zug zug

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Yes and I had no issue with people going kyrian as a bit of more defensive approach to the raid. But apparently blizzard even though they themselves are ones making the content and couldn’t see the very clear synergy months ago of kyrian being able to negate bleeds.

It’s comical really, and even with the delay they still likely cannot deliver a good product.

So keep the same exploit in but just for one faction. Good idea. Honestly at this point, just make racials not used in raid content…I really dont like them changing how something works to not break something.

I dont see why they just couldnt make the bleed damage just be negated during the duration…but not remove the stacks.

It removing stacks was the problem.

ESO would like a word with you.

They have racials that give more magicka/stamina or mag/stam recovery and you can 100% feel the difference if you’re not on a race+class combo that gets those bonuses.

I don’t know anymore. I’ve become so jaded with their design decisions for a myriad of things that it feels like they are just tossing darts at a board to see what potential solution they should proceed toward.

If there is one positive this change could be seen as a reason to bring paladins for BoP/Bubble but even then who in their right mind would play ret.